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General Category => Geek / Games Discussion => Topic started by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 02, 2022, 10:46:40 pm
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Geek Talk: KT's old Netbook (32-bit) - OS alternatives??
My old Netbook I bought years back from Dave is an Acer Aspire ONE D250 1585 (SNID: 92319242316)
(https://i.imgur.com/qIfVki6.png)
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/fChSC3TwENm6J6Z6irkR6E-970-80.jpg)
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Amateur video of my netbook - same colour and everything - but not that great of a video beyond the very basics and him showing off his website with that annoying music he has that is too loud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gKILupx3ZA
Old more detailed video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSUEN_G3b80
Original Specs:
PC: Acer Aspire ONE (AO D250 1585 10.1")
OS: Windows XP Starter Edition (32-bit)
CPU: Intel Atom N270 CPU @ 1.6GHz
VGA BIOS ver.: Intel V1585
Video Card: Intel® GMA 950 (256Mb) integrated
Graphics: Intel Mobile 945SE Express Integrated Graphics vendor: Acer Incorp. ALI
Graphics Driver: i915
Video Memory 384MB
Netbook Monitor: 10.1" screen @ 1024×600 (16:9) resolution ~60Hz (makes it a little odd but I can use the Alt key to scroll for items that are too long for the screen at least in Linux).
OpenGL: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 19.0.8
RAM: 1GB of RAM
Audio: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family HD Audio Vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
Network: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x
Storage: 160GB Sata HD (5,400rpm) Hitachi
Ports: Microphone, Kensington Lock, Headphone, Ethernet, VGA & 3 USB ports.
WiFi: 802.11 B/G
Battery: Model Sony UM08A41
Temp Censor: CPU 51 °C
Additional: 4-1 card reader
Upgraded by Dave years ago:
PC: Acer Aspire ONE (D250 10.1")
OS: Windows 7 Starter 32-bit SP1 <= Upgraded
CPU: Intel® Atom CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz
Video Card: Intel® GMA 950 (256Mb) integrated
RAM: 2.0 GB DDR2 <= Upgraded
Storage: 160GB Sata HD (5,400rpm)
My question is:
What OS can I upgrade this poor old PC that is not Windows. Icurrently have Windows 7 Starter on it and it is SLOW as snails stuck in molasses and has been since the upgrade. I should have not gone higher than Windows XP Home...
OS platforms in question:
LXLE: based on Ubuntu/Lubuntu LTS. LXLE is an eclectic respin of Lubuntu with its own user support.
LXLE is an easy-to-use lightweight desktop Linux distribution based on Lubuntu and featuring the LXDE desktop environment. Compared to its parent, LXLE has a number of unique characteristics: it is built from Ubuntu's LTS (long-term support) releases, it covers most users' everyday needs by providing a good selection of default applications, and it adds useful modifications and tweaks to improve performance and functions.
https://lxle.net/
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lxle (https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lxle)
Linux Mint 19.3 "Tricia" (Cinnamon Edition):
Component Minimum Recommended RAM 1 GB, Disk Space 15 GB
Component Required RAM 2 GB, Disk Space 20 GB
Resolution *on lower resolutions, press ALT to drag windows with the mouse if they don’t fit in the screen 1024 x 768
https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=274 (https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=274)
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=258660 (https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=258660)
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint
Linux Lite: Linux Lite was created to make the transition from Windows to a linux based operating system, as smooth as possible.
There will be no 32bit ISO from Series 4.x onwards. If you still need to run a 32bit operating system, our Series 3.x is supported until April, 2021. Download it from here: https://osdn.net/projects/linuxlite/storage/3.8/
https://linuxliteos.com/
Lubuntu: a fast and lightweight operating system with a clean and easy-to-use user interface.
It is a Linux system, that uses the minimal desktop LXDE/LXQT, and a selection of light applications.
64-bit version suitable for PCs with Intel or AMD chip: https://lubuntu.net/
32-bit version Lubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus): https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lubuntu
Manjaro: an open source operating system that can be installed on Desktops/Laptops/Tablets or Mobile Phones. Different user interfaces are available. Manjaro Linux targets beginners and advanced users at the same time. We provide user interface tools and scripts to make life easier. Manjaro supports NVIDIA's Optimus technology out of the box
https://manjaro.org/
https://manjaro.org/features/useful-for-everyone/
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Main_Page
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Using_Manjaro_for_Windows_users
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=manjaro
Core / TinyCore / or CorePlus: Linux
http://www.tinycorelinux.net/downloads.html
Req: http://www.tinycorelinux.net/faq.html#req (http://www.tinycorelinux.net/faq.html#req)
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=tinycore
Damn Small Linux:
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
Req: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/minimum_hardware_requirements.html
This is just a side low-priority thing that came up after Dave asked about my netbook and what I wanted to do with it. Honestly I hadn't turned it on for years as it is so old and had a faulty battery and I have my main desk computer and don't have a lot of money right now. Dave can probably add more about this.
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I am thinking Lubuntu. What does anyone here think?
Also Windows Update just told me for Windows 7 starter that they detected updates! I was surprised .. I thought there were no more updates for this old thing! Guess how many updates? 27 important ones and 4 optional ones and The important ones will be 642 Mb
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I was thinking Lubuntu but after the comparison on here and talking to Dave by phone I think I will go with Linux Mint (Cinnamon).
https://www.educba.com/linux-mint-vs-ubuntu/
Another site was talking about various ones but says things the other sites don't say:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
Mint does not have a policy against including nonfree software, it includes nonfree binary blobs in drivers packaged with the kernel, and it includes nonfree programs in its repositories. It even includes proprietary codecs.
Manjaro includes nonfree software through its normal channels, and ships nonfree blobs with its kernel, Linux. It includes a proprietary office suite and proprietary games with DRM. The distro also recommends the installation of nonfree drivers.
ReactOS is meant as a free binary compatible replacement for Windows. Use with proprietary software and drivers meant for Windows is one of the stated goals of the project.
Ubuntu maintains specific repositories of nonfree software, and Canonical expressly promotes and recommends nonfree software under the Ubuntu name in some of their distribution channels. Ubuntu offers the option to install only free packages, which means it also offers the option to install nonfree packages too. In addition, the version of Linux, the kernel, included in Ubuntu contains firmware blobs.
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I've always been partial to Knoppix and Ubuntu because those are known to be Live boot capable.
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I've always been partial to Knoppix and Ubuntu because those are known to be Live boot capable.
Those are the 2 I am most familiar with thanks to you.
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The last Ubuntu version I have is 20.04. It should still work with your older hardware. I think?? If you want to try it, I can upload it to my server and share it?
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The last Ubuntu version I have is 20.04. It should still work with your older hardware. I think?? If you want to try it, I can upload it to my server and share it?
Okay ya cool :)
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I know, old thread. But I just came across this and thought I would share it here. It's essentially Windows 10 (windows 11 coming soon) but with a method to debloat the crap out of it.
https://atlasos.net/
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She got an old core 2 dual core laptop from her dad that has 4 gigs of ram. the netbook choked on windows 7 It would never be able to run any version of 10. A pentium 4 would likely be more powerful than the Atom processor in the netbook.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/614vs1378/Intel-Atom-N270-vs-Mobile-Intel-Pentium-4-3.33GHz
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My Toshiba craptop has and old AMD Sempron 5200+. Dual core, clocks at 1.8ghz, 4gb of ram and a 500gb SSD. It shipped with windows Vista so no shock that it runs windows 7 just fine. I did try windows 10 pro 64 bit on it and it runs about the same as windows 7 did. Minus lack of support for the track pads scroll function, everything else works surprisingly well. Ubuntu 20.04 runs pretty good on it. It felt more responsive and apps loaded faster. But it did seem to take a bit longer to boot and didn't support the track pad, or my Bluetooth adaptor either.
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Already put 10 on the dual core laptop, works ok. but the netbook isn't a dual core and doesn't even meet W10's requirements.it was under powered and limited by the standards of it's time. Today almost anything is past it's capabilities. my suggested use case for it would be go back to XP and use the screensaver as a digital picture frame. about the only thing it might be able to handle given it's specs.
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my suggested use case for it would be go back to XP and use the screensaver as a digital picture frame. about the only thing it might be able to handle given it's specs.
:lmao: :cold: That's just so sad.
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could be worse. I think chromebooks have an expiry date based on when they are built. not even just when they are sold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXvzM9PPEAc
at about 6:16 into the video
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Well, at least it could still surf the web, right?
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I would hope so but it sounds like that would be a cut off of all support. Probably not a prob for your more tech savy people, but for the average, non tech inclined person. they'd be stuck and fucked.
They would think their only option would be buy a new one.
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I know, old thread. But I just came across this and thought I would share it here. It's essentially Windows 10 (windows 11 coming soon) but with a method to debloat the crap out of it.
https://atlasos.net/
I will have to check it out. I gave up on the netbook and got a couple laptops and computers from my dad (only tried to upgrade one of the laptops which I dual booted but was not assigned to my account so Dave did it over for me). I will have to check out that link and perhaps put that on the other laptop. I haven't booted any of them up other than that one as I just haven't had the time and Dave wasn't interested until I put Win 10 on that one. They are old and my dad was going to just toss them out anyway and I thought heck if they are worth nothing I could still get money for the metal :P (not much but hey). I did take out the card reader out of one of the cases my dad was tossing and told him to keep that but still have to put it in for him. Just been too busy with my mom to go over.
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Already put 10 on the dual core laptop, works ok. but the netbook isn't a dual core and doesn't even meet W10's requirements.it was under powered and limited by the standards of it's time. Today almost anything is past it's capabilities. my suggested use case for it would be go back to XP and use the screensaver as a digital picture frame. about the only thing it might be able to handle given it's specs.
Dave that netbook is so useless and outdated now that even my dad's old castoffs that YOU turned down was better. :P Even my bro's youngest kids would not want to be on that netbook. It can be used as a seat when forced to sit on the ground maybe :P
But my dad's laptop is better right? It will just be used when I am not at home or when my computer is being worked on for really just Discord, Skype, FB Messenger, and video watching really. Maybe basic gaming (GW2) but nothing more. Forum browsing and chatting on Discord mainly.
Right now the focus is on my Uncle's palliative care and my mom. After the funeral I will get the computer to you (well you to it and then you back home to work on upgrading it and all). What kind of Antivirus is on the laptop? I am not really a fan of AVG even though I know you swear by it. What browser did you install? Is it Win 10 Pro? That is what I attempted and successfully put on it but did not have it registered to my key / account sadly. Thanks for fixing that Dave.
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And rightfully so. If someone needs a working computer, they should get one that will do what they need and want it to do for the next 4+ years.
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In an ideal situation sure, but in an "I got these computers given to me for free and I don't have a budget to throw at it. I'd say she's doing ok to find something that she can get by with for the time being. And like I said the netbook could make for a digital picture frame with even just XP or tiny XP and the simple "picture screensaver".
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In an ideal situation sure, but in an "I got these computers given to me for free and I don't have a budget to throw at it. I'd say she's doing ok to find something that she can get by with for the time being. And like I said the netbook could make for a digital picture frame with even just XP or tiny XP and the simple "picture screensaver".
That is such a space waster. If you want it for that use I can give it to you.
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Truthfully I'd probably just use an old laptop or AIO computer for that if I was going to do that.
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Ya point is I don't have the need to use anything as a picture frame as it is. Heck we bought one for my mom a few years back and even though it was nice at first the novelty of it QUICKLY faded. Besides, I don't even turn on my netbook anymore. Even my little nieces who are 4 and 6 have better tech and don't have use for it. I think I will just wipe it to factory install and donate it to a second hand store or something.
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Could be done. Probably the best way to get rid of it. I would at least suggest a low level format (aka 0 wipe of the hd for less chance of any data retention.
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Could be done. Probably the best way to get rid of it. I would at least suggest a low level format (aka 0 wipe of the hd for less chance of any data retention.
I will let you do that. I am too busy this week getting a 2014 CR-V and worried about money and one less thing I have to worry about the better so I don't have time to deal with the netbook. So I figure you can format it anyway you like and then I can drop it off unless there is anything you want to use it for.
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I guess I could do the wipe. I don't have any use for the netbook though.
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I guess I could do the wipe. I don't have any use for the netbook though.
Me neither ... unless I use it to bait scammers. Always wanted to try my hand at that. ;)
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Funny thing is my dad just handed one to me he no longer wanted that still had Windows XP on it when I saw him for Thanksgiving. lol .. I told him it was not worth anything.
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Funny thing is my dad just handed one to me he no longer wanted that still had Windows XP on it when I saw him for Thanksgiving. lol .. I told him it was not worth anything.
Geee, thanks dad. lol
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Funny thing is my dad just handed one to me he no longer wanted that still had Windows XP on it when I saw him for Thanksgiving. lol .. I told him it was not worth anything.
Geee, thanks dad. lol
Hey he doesn't know computers, :P To him, it is a computer and that is all he knows. :) He knew Dave would not take it, so I did. :) I already took out a card reader out of his old PC for him to have for his new one but still haven't had the time to go over and put it in (I don't know his mobo and would have to look it up but sure it is easy). I have 2 of his old cases I thought I would check out or salvage .. dunno and that netbook .. well ... I don't even think children would want it in this day of age where they have much better as toys. Still, I took the net book off him figuring, maybe I can use it in scam baiting lol :P .. We will see. ;)