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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2023, 08:49:36 pm »
So, I was looking up the specs on that main board.  And it says it has 1 RGB header.  I assume it's a 4 pin 12v nonaddressable header?  The spec sheet doesn't specify.

The case that KT is looking at (the RGB version) has a stand-alone RGB controller built in.  You just push a button to select the lighting mode you want.  But has a 3 pin 5v addressable connector to use with your mainboard.

I'm wondering though, what CPU cooler are you using?

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2023, 01:01:58 am »
So, I was looking up the specs on that main board.  And it says it has 1 RGB header.  I assume it's a 4 pin 12v nonaddressable header?  The spec sheet doesn't specify.

The case that KT is looking at (the RGB version) has a stand-alone RGB controller built in.  You just push a button to select the lighting mode you want.  But has a 3 pin 5v addressable connector to use with your mainboard.

I'm wondering though, what CPU cooler are you using?

TL;DR (Too Long; Didn't Read)? Just read the part AFTER the spoiler.
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Mine is the インテル (INTEL) E97379-003 DC12V 0.18A NIDEC

E97379-003
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DC12V 0.18A
NIDEC]

However the Data Sheet is part Japanese, part English. :( https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/processors/E97379-Nidec-Datasheet.pdf

Hope that answers your question Jeff :)

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2023, 06:04:51 pm »
 It's a non overclockable CPU about 65watts, just the stock intel cooler. I'm pretty sure that her GPU is really efficient too, no crazy cooling needed for this combo. 
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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2023, 10:01:39 pm »
I'm aware of the full specs of the I5 8400 CPU.  6 core, no hyperthreading and no factory overclock.  It does have a boost clock though.   But still, a stock Intel box cooler should be enough to get the job done.  But just barely.

As I though KT.  The RGB header on your board is 12 volts.  If you decide to deck out your system with RGB lighting, make sure it's 12 volt compliant.  It will ruin RGB lights that are only 5 volt.  The easiest way to tell the difference is look at the plug.  4 pins = 12 volt.  3 pins = 5 volt.

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2023, 11:31:10 am »
I'm aware of the full specs of the I5 8400 CPU.  6 core, no hyperthreading and no factory overclock.  It does have a boost clock though.   But still, a stock Intel box cooler should be enough to get the job done.  But just barely.

As I though KT.  The RGB header on your board is 12 volts.  If you decide to deck out your system with RGB lighting, make sure it's 12 volt compliant.  It will ruin RGB lights that are only 5 volt.  The easiest way to tell the difference is look at the plug.  4 pins = 12 volt.  3 pins = 5 volt.
  Thanks Jeff.

I also found this as I wanted to be sure where to plug things into when I can't see the back (was going to plug my speakers into the back instead of the front as I normally have speakers plugged in the back and only headphones in the front).

https://mans.io/item/MSI/b360m-bazooka

Also everything seems good cooling wise according to this:

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Mainboard Model B360M BAZOOKA (MS-7B24) (0x0000056C - 0xBFF0E490)

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LPCIO Vendor ID 0x5CA3
LPCIO Chip ID 0xD4
LPCIO Revision ID 0x51

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Voltage 8 0.72 Volts [0x5A] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage 9 1.20 Volts [0x4B] (DRAM)
Voltage 10 12.19 Volts [0x7F] (+12V)
Voltage 11 5.00 Volts [0x7D] (+5V)
Voltage 12 0.95 Volts [0x77] (CPU I/O)
Voltage 13 1.05 Volts [0x83] (PCH)
Voltage 14 0.86 Volts [0x6C] (VIN14)
Voltage 15 3.41 Volts [0xD5] (+3.3V)
Temperature 6 35 degC (95 degF) [0x23] (System)
Temperature 8 33 degC (91 degF) [0x21] (CPU Socket)
Temperature 9 37 degC (98 degF) [0x25] (CPU Core)
Fan 1 1010 RPM [0x3F2] (CPU)
Fan 2 903 RPM [0x387] (SYS fan 1)

Hardware monitor Back-UPS ES 750 FW:841.I3 .D USB FW:I3
Voltage 0 13.76 Volts [0x560] (Battery)
Level 0 0 pc [0x0] (Power Load)
Level 0 100 pc [0x64] (Battery)

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Power 0 18.17 W (GPU)
Temperature 0 34 degC (93 degF) [0x22] (GPU)
Fan 0 575 RPM [0x23F] (GPU #0)
Fan 1 558 RPM [0x22E] (GPU #1)
Clock Speed 0 300.00 MHz [0x12C] (Graphics)
Clock Speed 1 405.00 MHz [0x195] (Memory)
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L3 cache 9 MBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size
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Max CPUID ext. level 80000008h
FID/VID Control yes


Turbo Mode supported, enabled
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Max turbo ratio 40x
Max efficiency ratio 8x
Speedshift Autonomous
O/C bins none
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Ratio 2 cores 39x
Ratio 3 cores 39x
Ratio 4 cores 39x
Ratio 5 cores 38x
Ratio 6 cores 38x
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GT Voltage Offset 0 mV
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Agent Voltage Mode PCU adaptive
Agent Voltage Offset 0 mV
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Temperature 1 35 degC (95 degF) (Core #0)
Temperature 2 35 degC (95 degF) (Core #1)
Temperature 3 35 degC (95 degF) (Core #2)
Temperature 4 34 degC (93 degF) (Core #3)
Temperature 5 34 degC (93 degF) (Core #4)
Temperature 6 32 degC (89 degF) (Core #5)
Voltage 0 +0.00 Volts (IA Offset)
Voltage 1 +0.00 Volts (GT Offset)
Voltage 2 +0.00 Volts (LLC/Ring Offset)
Voltage 3 +0.00 Volts (System Agent Offset)
Voltage 4 0.84 Volts (VID #0)
Voltage 5 0.83 Volts (VID #1)
Voltage 6 0.68 Volts (VID #2)
Voltage 7 0.84 Volts (VID #3)
Voltage 8 0.87 Volts (VID #4)
Voltage 9 0.84 Volts (VID #5)
Power 00 14.19 W (Package)
Power 01 3.42 W (IA Cores)
Power 02 n.a. (GT)
Power 03 10.77 W (Uncore)
Power 04 0.57 W (DRAM)
Clock Speed 0 2394.72 MHz (Core #0)
Clock Speed 1 2394.72 MHz (Core #1)
Clock Speed 2 798.24 MHz (Core #2)
Clock Speed 3 2394.72 MHz (Core #3)
Clock Speed 4 2394.72 MHz (Core #4)
Clock Speed 5 2394.72 MHz (Core #5)
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Core 1 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 2 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 3 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 4 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 5 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)


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APIC ID 0
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Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
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Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 9 MB, 16 thread(s)

CPU Thread 5
APIC ID 10
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 10, Thread ID 0
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
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Storage
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Bus Type SATA (11)
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Type Removable
Bus Type USB (7)
Rotation speed 7200 RPM
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USB Device American Power Conversion USB UPS, class=0x00, subclass=0x00, vendor=0x051D, product=0x0002
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USB Device USB Composite Device, class=0x00, subclass=0x00, vendor=0x0C45, product=0x7603
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USB Device USB Composite Device, class=0x00, subclass=0x00, vendor=0x046D, product=0x0A9C
USB Device Generic SuperSpeed USB Hub, class=0x09, subclass=0x00, vendor=0x05E3, product=0x0612
USB Device Generic SuperSpeed USB Hub, class=0x09, subclass=0x00, vendor=0x05E3, product=0x0612

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API D3D
API NVIDIA I/O
API NVIDIA NVAPI

Display Adapters
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ID 0x10A0106
Name NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
Board Manufacturer Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. (MSI)
Revision A1
Codename TU106-410
Core family 0x166 (TU106)
TDP 175.0 W
Cores 2176
ROP Units 64
TM Units 136
Technology 12 nm
Memory size 8 GB
Memory type GDDR6
Memory vendor Micron
PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x10DE (0x1462)
Model ID 0x1F06 (0xC755)
Revision ID 0xA1
Performance Level 0
Core clock 300.0 MHz
Memory clock 405.0 MHz
Driver version 31.0.15.3713
WDDM Model 2.7


Monitor 0
Model DELL ST2420L (Dell Computer)
ID DELA068
Serial MVGKH23819EU
Manufacturing Date Week 10, Year 2012
Size 24.0 inches
Max Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Horizontal Freq. Range 30-83 kHz
Vertical Freq. Range 56-76 Hz
Max Pixel Clock 170 MHz
Gamma Factor 2.2

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2023, 08:19:21 pm »
Ummm.... I uh .. have been noticing something annoying with my computer lately. The sound.

At first, I simply thought the other speaker went as the right one had already gone a bit ago, but when we hooked this computer up the left one did not work either. That is why I have been using the headphones exclusively that hooks to USB. But ... ever since 2 days ago, I have been noticing a pop-up. At first, I thought it was odd that it JUST realized it, but with discord it pops up so often that it got me wondering. Is it really the speakers or something else going on? So I thought I would post about it here because I don't know what to make of this and thought I need to bring it to "the Geek Guys" (Dave and Jeff). ;)

See the attached image to see what the pop-up I am getting in Discord, often without changing anything to make it different. Is there something loose? What would cause this to keep popping up? I mean, it is not me plugging in a new device. In fact, this last time it popped up, I had just woken up, and it had already popped up previous during the day before bed.




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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2023, 12:28:27 am »
Actually ... now that I think about it I think something isn't quite right with the front panel as my external USB when plugged into the front will disconnect and reconnect when ever I plug in or unplug other things from the front panel including my USB headset. Not like there is a conflict but more like a looseness to the part just behind the case panel...

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2023, 12:40:49 am »
I'm not sure what audio chipset that board has, but I highly doubt that is was made by Nvidia.  This suggests to me that your video card is doing this.  If I remember correctly, the 20 series Nvidia cards have a USB C port in the IP panel.  They are for use with VR headsets, but can carry audio as well.  I would suggest disabling the Nvidia audio controller from the system device manager.  It's not needed here.

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2023, 07:13:58 pm »
 I think your going to confuse her with the mention of USB-C. none of her audio is in any way hooked to a USB-C port. The Nvidia sound driver has to do with the HDMI port she uses for video to the monitor, this monitor has an audio out conection on the back of the monitor. The loose connections shouldn't be to hard to fix, just a matter of her getting free time again.
 Also if she doesn't end up using the monitor's audio out then disabling the Nvidia audio driver might be done for less confusion.
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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2023, 12:35:30 am »
Regardless of what the Nvidia audio driver hooks to, it's still not required and should be disabled.

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2023, 03:09:12 pm »
 It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2023, 07:26:52 am »
It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.

The monitor seems to be missing the sound bar, however, so I don't think I can use the monitor for sound anyway...

https://dl.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_electronics/esuprt_display/dell-st2420l_user's%20guide_en-us.pdf

Also, silly question but, is staring at a cold cathode fluorescent lighting for a long time bad on the eyes?


Also if she doesn't end up using the monitor's audio out then disabling the Nvidia audio driver might be done for less confusion.

That might be for the best, then.

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2023, 08:25:37 pm »
Also, silly question but, is staring at a cold cathode fluorescent lighting for a long time bad on the eyes?

That is an odd question.  I don't know if it's bad on the eyes or not.  But staring at any light for a long period of time is not a good idea.  So, I would recommend not doing that.

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2023, 08:47:26 pm »
It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.

I understand that you are concerned about ease of access here.  And that's fine.  But keep in mind, that small barrel jack on the monitor, and the PC's front I/O are designed for "headphones".  They can work with small speakers, sure.  But won't provide much power to drive a set of speakers efficiently.  Plus, you will lose some software control of them from the PC itself.  Use that method if you must KT, but I would highly recommend using the green speaker jack directly from the sound card.  That port is meant to drive speakers.

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Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2023, 03:29:27 am »
It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.

I understand that you are concerned about ease of access here.  And that's fine.  But keep in mind, that small barrel jack on the monitor, and the PC's front I/O are designed for "headphones".  They can work with small speakers, sure.  But won't provide much power to drive a set of speakers efficiently.  Plus, you will lose some software control of them from the PC itself.  Use that method if you must KT, but I would highly recommend using the green speaker jack directly from the sound card.  That port is meant to drive speakers.

That is what I thought. Thank you!  :tup:

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