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Title: Decluttering your home space
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 30, 2024, 12:15:26 pm
Anyone who is a gamer knows that clutter becomes normal. But throw in health problems and it can become overwhelming as you have less energy or time to deal with it or do regular upkeep.

So I have been watching videos and reading advice and came across this. I thought, "You know, not much talk goes on in the SA forums, and we are all gamers who are getting older and may have less energy than we used to. Why not make a thread about what helps each of us tackle clutter around our home space and work space?"

So here it is. Got any suggestions or advice for me?

Was thinking about this as I was reading this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/8-decluttering-tips-for-hoarders/ar-AA1d4V6N (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/8-decluttering-tips-for-hoarders/ar-AA1d4V6N)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhWvfNhqGeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdk3gkJ7Kvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHWyNZpQpXk

and I DO actually have a video game drawer but it is mainly computer components such as wires and connectors and some PC CD's or DVD's and manuals and such. So this next video I also thought was pretty relevant. Who else has such a drawer? Mine is in one of those plastic 4 drawer things under my desk (you know the one Dave).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIvnyxWRsu0

Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Sandman[SA] on April 30, 2024, 11:43:40 pm
I actually got a pretty big shelf to put the bulk of my clutter on.  I know I need to start getting rid of all the old stuff I know I will never use again.  I've just been too lazy to do anything about it.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Kodiac on May 01, 2024, 12:37:15 am
I use the crate method. Everything has a box. I put it in said box. Declutterrd
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on May 02, 2024, 10:50:07 pm
I use the crate method. Everything has a box. I put it in said box. Declutterrd

Ya that is the basics of the typical method I have heard of. The "everything has a home. If it doesn't, discard it" system. I also have heard of the death cleaning system. It is where you think of what your family would be left with having to go through if you died and getting rid of things that are just added clutter there is no use for by anyone in your family or your friends.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Kodiac on May 03, 2024, 01:41:18 am
Death method is stupid. Like people are allowed to enjoy things that other people would discard lmao. Like a garden dwarf collection for example. Or legos. Etc lmao
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Sandman[SA] on May 03, 2024, 11:37:12 pm
My parents for example held onto just about everything.  My mom was a bit of a hoarder, and my dad just tried his best to keep it somewhat organized.  When they passed away, my sisters and I spent months throwing away most of the stuff they had.  I kind of wished they had planned a little on the "death method".
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Kodiac on May 04, 2024, 09:17:19 pm
Yeah that's just dealing with hoarders period lmao
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on May 05, 2024, 03:51:56 pm
But how do people draw the line between clutter and hoarding?
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Kodiac on May 06, 2024, 07:29:47 pm
I personally differientiate clutter from hoarding this way : If you have like 1 spot for everything or just have more stuff, that’s clutter. If you have stuff that you can’t use anymore (more than a room or a table) or some equipment that you can’t use anymore because there is stuff blocking it, of that doesn’t work and u didn’t replace it, that’s hoarding.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Sandman[SA] on May 06, 2024, 09:42:39 pm
Technically, clutter is just a bunch of personal belongings that are in a state of disorganization.  Where hoarding is taking clutter several stages higher and never throwing away anything or hang on to everything thinking that they will find a use for it someday.  But never do and can't allow themselves to part with anything.  Angie, you and I are both on that razers edge between the 2.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on May 07, 2024, 09:09:55 am
Technically, clutter is just a bunch of personal belongings that are in a state of disorganization.  Where hoarding is taking clutter several stages higher and never throwing away anything or hang on to everything thinking that they will find a use for it someday.  But never do and can't allow themselves to part with anything.  Angie, you and I are both on that razers edge between the 2.

Oh heck I don't mind throwing anything away. It is more of my health and energy keeping me from going through it all. I think when I was younger I would hold onto things but as I age I find I care less about it as I have less hope of my life being anything other than it is (no family, just me, nothing changing, living here forever). With nothing to hold onto things for I have no qualms about throwing things out at all. In fact I have been desiring it more and more in the last year or so.

I personally differientiate clutter from hoarding this way : If you have like 1 spot for everything or just have more stuff, that’s clutter. If you have stuff that you can’t use anymore (more than a room or a table) or some equipment that you can’t use anymore because there is stuff blocking it, of that doesn’t work and u didn’t replace it, that’s hoarding.

I think that is an excellent description. My dad was border line but when he moved into his gf's his own house just was used to hold onto stuff because it was not in his way at all. When he sold the house to my brother he was able to get rid of all that he could not take with him.

Sandman I think you could throw things out easily but it just is not important to you to get rid of the stuff that has been with your family for generations. It is just you and no push to change things and you have access to all rooms and all things so for you it is just clutter. For my health holds me from getting rid of things but the main thing I have too much of is clothing but only because my weight has been unstable and I can't just afford to toss out clothes and then buy them again when I am that size again. However I have learned to let go of some as I realize I will never be as skinny as I once was. I kinda gave up on that by now. However, coincidently once I threw the small sizes out, my mom got sick, lost lots of weight and the clothes I had that would have fit her are now gone. Go figure lol! It never happens when you have the stuff just laying around.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on May 20, 2024, 03:58:32 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS-C19Cl_18
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Sandman[SA] on May 20, 2024, 09:00:47 pm

Sandman I think you could throw things out easily but it just is not important to you to get rid of the stuff.

True.  I've just been too lazy to sort out what I want to keep and what can go.  No motivation.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on May 21, 2024, 12:31:40 am

Sandman I think you could throw things out easily but it just is not important to you to get rid of the stuff.

True.  I've just been too lazy to sort out what I want to keep and what can go.  No motivation.

For me lately it is lack of time but before that it was lack of energy, feeling overwhelmed, and just tired and needing help. But ya lack of motivation is a huge one of course.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Kodiac on May 21, 2024, 07:54:30 am
Covid killed everyone’s motivation
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on May 24, 2024, 01:33:35 am
Covid killed everyone’s motivation

Naw. For me, I have been worried about getting sick since the '90s due to being immunosuppressed. For me, my motivation was killed since I was out of commission from abscesses and Home IV, daily nurse visits and loss of muscle mass in 2008. I had great energy and motivation before my health really went south physically despite all I had been going through healthwise since the 70s...  Even though Anemia really kicked my ass, I find that loss of muscle mass is a lot harder to recover from. With all the surgeries I have had .. and that sudden weight gain of 4 sizes in only a few months that doctors just shrugged at and misdiagnosed me, my motivation is sitting on my ass on disability and playing video games or checking in on all the sick around me, my nieces and nephews, my medical Facebook, as well as sleeping as I am always tired since being diagnosed with sleep apnea years ago.

Blaming Covid is easy to do but not what killed my motivation. It was dead way before that :P.
Covid affected everyone else a lot worse than me, including family members as 40% of my family are conspiracy theorists.

In fact, I have gotten rid of a LOT of stuff but my situation has Impeded my ability to just get rid of all excess since 2001 when I ended up back on dialysis the first time around and was severely anemic. Then moving from a 3 bedroom house with a basement to a 2 bedroom and then after switching from Peritoneal Dialysis to Hemodialysis moving to a one-bedroom but still having a lot of the stuff from the house ... ya ... you can see the situation clearer now.
Title: Re: Decluttering your home space
Post by: Kodiac on May 24, 2024, 07:50:47 am
Covid :

Trained people not to go outside and not interact
Killed people
Broke families
Ended businesses
Bankrupted small businesses
Decreased the quality of healthcare permanently
Put us in a depression (economic)
Broke everyone’s habit cycle
And let’s be honest, changed the path of human history, kinda like events that happen every 400 years.


Not minimizing everything that happenned to you, just saying that the way humanity handled covid did way more than we think. And i am sure some of those things affect you in a way or another, even if you say you were already there.