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Title: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 27, 2015, 05:24:08 pm

As you know Sand, One Eyed Wonder Weasel updated my computer with this Quad core Q9550. I thought I would post here about it. :)  Is this it? http://ark.intel.com/products/33924/Intel-Core2-Quad-Processor-Q9550-12M-Cache-2_83-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB

I took the info from EVEREST Ultimate Ed and put that in a spoiler below:

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Field    Value
CPU Properties   
CPU Type    QuadCore Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550, 2833 MHz (8.5 x 333)
CPU Alias    Yorkfield
CPU Stepping    C1
Instruction Set    x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1
Original Clock    2833 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier    6.0x / 8.5x
Engineering Sample    No
L1 Code Cache    32 KB per core
L1 Data Cache    32 KB per core
L2 Cache    2x 6 MB  (On-Die, ECC, ASC, Full-Speed)
   
Multi CPU   
Motherboard ID    TEMPLATE ETEMPLATE
CPU #1    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, 2833 MHz
CPU #2    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, 2833 MHz
CPU #3    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, 2833 MHz
CPU #4    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, 2833 MHz
   
CPU Physical Info   
Package Type    775 Contact LGA
Package Size    3.75 cm x 3.75 cm
Transistors    820 million
Process Technology    45 nm, CMOS, Cu, High-K Gate
Die Size    214 mm2
Core Voltage    1.038 - 1.163 V
I/O Voltage    1.038 - 1.163 V
   
CPU Manufacturer   
Company Name    Intel Corporation
Product Information    http://www.intel.com/products/processor
   
CPU Utilization   
CPU #1 / Core #1    13 %
CPU #1 / Core #2    23 %
CPU #1 / Core #3    23 %
CPU #1 / Core #4    78 %

He also updated my Video Card to a Radeon HD 5800 Series (PCI Express 2.0 x16: ATI Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress)) (http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ati-radeon-hd-4850-crossfire,1.html) and now I am able to view games at a higher setting than before. :)

(http://m1.tocmai.ro/f/i/normal/7/1683/16830187_1.jpg)

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Field   Value
Graphics Processor Properties   
Video Adapter   ATI Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress)
BIOS Version   012.016.000.001.000000
BIOS Date   12/15/09 20:23
GPU Code Name   Cypress XT
Part Number   113-587XZNFXV10
PCI Device   1002-6898 / 1682-2961  (Rev 00)
Transistors   2154 million
Process Technology   40 nm
Die Size   334 mm2
Bus Type   PCI Express 2.0 x16 @ x16
Memory Size   1 GB
GPU Clock   157 MHz  (original: 850 MHz)
RAMDAC Clock   400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines   32
TMU Per Pipeline   1
Unified Shaders   1600  (v5.0)
DirectX Hardware Support   DirectX v11
Pixel Fillrate   5024 MPixel/s
   
Memory Bus Properties   
Bus Type   GDDR5
Bus Width   256-bit
Real Clock   300 MHz (QDR)  (original: 1200 MHz)
Effective Clock   1200 MHz
Bandwidth   37.5 GB/s
   
Miscellaneous   
Utilization   0%
   
ATI PowerPlay (BIOS)   
State #1   GPU: 850 MHz, Memory: 1200 MHz  (Boot)
State #2   GPU: 850 MHz, Memory: 1200 MHz
State #3   GPU: 400 MHz, Memory: 900 MHz  (UVD)
State #4   GPU: 850 MHz, Memory: 1200 MHz
State #5   GPU: 157 MHz, Memory: 300 MHz
   
Graphics Processor Manufacturer   
Company Name   Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information   http://ati.amd.com/products/home-office.html
Driver Download   http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
Driver Update   http://driveragent.com?ref=59 (http://driveragent.com?ref=59)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2015, 12:37:30 am

Ummm, the link and image that you posted is for a Radeon 4850.  Similar to your "old" video card.  :duh:

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 01, 2015, 02:43:13 pm

If I remember correctly the card she has now is this one.
her old one was this one.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 02, 2015, 12:48:18 pm

Thanks Dave. For some reason it is hard to find an exact pic of my current vid card..  OH! I just checked EVEREST and you are right! Mine is the 4850! But still had a hard time finding the pic  :duh:  .. why are there so many different kinds of 5870? (different looks)?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 03, 2015, 09:57:14 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on March 02, 2015, 12:48:18 pm

why are there so many different kinds of 5870? (different looks)?

This is how they indicate different versions.  Kind of like how they use to have generic, pro and XT cards back in the day?  Back then, it was easy to tell just by looking at the heatsync and fan.  Now you can't see that so easy so now they use the case colors to showcase the version.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 04, 2015, 09:20:38 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on March 03, 2015, 09:57:14 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on March 02, 2015, 12:48:18 pm

why are there so many different kinds of 5870? (different looks)?

This is how they indicate different versions.  Kind of like how they use to have generic, pro and XT cards back in the day?  Back then, it was easy to tell just by looking at the heatsync and fan.  Now you can't see that so easy so now they use the case colors to showcase the version.

Ah okay thanks.  Ya I was trying to find a site on the specs and had a hard time. I wanted more than just a benchmark comparison so Dave got me this link:

http://www.cnet.com/products/xfx-radeon-hd-5870-graphics-card-radeon-hd-5870-1-gb-series/specs/

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Rabid Zucchini on March 09, 2015, 11:55:03 pm

ooooo, pretty!!!
 ;D

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on January 19, 2016, 11:41:56 am

I was posting a reply http://www.killerz.dns2go.com/smfbb20/index.php?topic=58.msg921#msg921 but decided to not take that thread off topic so I posted the rest here:

My computer is sooo slow and I still don't know why. Thought it was the memory since I only have 4Gb ... thought it might be my HDD since it is from Kodiac and is old but it seems to pass tests .. One Eyed says it is because I have only 27% space free on my 1Tb hard drive... I don't know. Maybe defragging will help then?

Either way I asked Dave to be on the look out but I just don't have the money for anything with owing so much money in debt :(  Heck I would be very happy with an i5 if not an i7 since I have an i3 I believe and is so slow in my favourite game I play as well as I have stuttering problems when watching videos.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on January 19, 2016, 05:58:19 pm

 Moving stuff off your drive to your external doesn't cost anything but time. plus another way to save space is to delete local content on games you never play anymore. can always re-download them  if you feel like playing them at a later date.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on January 20, 2016, 08:58:32 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on January 19, 2016, 11:41:56 am

My computer is sooo slow and I still don't know why. Thought it was the memory since I only have 4Gb ... thought it might be my HDD since it is from Kodiac and is old but it seems to pass tests .. One Eyed says it is because I have only 27% space free on my 1Tb hard drive... I don't know. Maybe defragging will help then?

Is your version of windows 32bit or 64bit?  32bit windows is limited to only 3gb of ram.  64bit can support 192gb of ram if I remember correctly.  But clearing off some un-used data and a defrag would help a bit.

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on January 19, 2016, 11:41:56 am

Heck I would be very happy with an i5 if not an i7 since I have an i3 I believe and is so slow in my favourite game I play as well as I have stuttering problems when watching videos.

Umm, you have a Pentium Core class processor.  Not an "I" class processor.  And I would check to make sure that you have no other programs running in the background.  And that you make sure that your coolers are clean and all fans are working.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on January 22, 2016, 01:45:13 pm

You know I have 64-bit Sand. U got it for me :P

When people ask what I have .. I thought I had an i3 .. no idea lol. But ya my computer tends to attract dust... a LOT. I have been watching the temps. They are good. Something else is causing the slow down though. Already defragged and had freed up space (to as much as is free now) and not really noticed any difference.  Something is running in the background while I game for sure but I am not sure what. Because GW2 uses the wiki a lot I keep Firefox open but many times I have to close it even though I have it set to only load a tab once I go to it and not tabs in the background.

I have running my Logitech Gaming Software, Lezmark 1200 All in one printer service, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Home Premium running, MSI Afterburner v4, Riva Tuner, Avast Anti-Virus and that is all that is showing on the task bar by the clock.  52% memory is being used right now as I type this.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on January 22, 2016, 09:36:30 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on January 22, 2016, 01:45:13 pm

You know I have 64-bit Sand. U got it for me :P

Umm, couldn't remember.  I know it's win7 pro though.

Anyway, 52% of 4 gigs of ram used and not even in a game yet?  Something is not right. Might want to bring up the task manager and see what's eating up so much ram.  I bet ya a box of doughnuts that it's your browser with all it's plugins having lunch with your ram.  lol  Might want to try running the browser in safe mode or turning off some plugins when playing browser based games.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on January 25, 2016, 02:52:52 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on January 22, 2016, 09:36:30 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on January 22, 2016, 01:45:13 pm

You know I have 64-bit Sand. U got it for me :P

Umm, couldn't remember.  I know it's win7 pro though.

Anyway, 52% of 4 gigs of ram used and not even in a game yet?  Something is not right. Might want to bring up the task manager and see what's eating up so much ram.  I bet ya a box of doughnuts that it's your browser with all it's plugins having lunch with your ram.  lol  Might want to try running the browser in safe mode or turning off some plugins when playing browser based games.

Even when I don't have the browser running? And I don't play browser games. I play real games lol.

Right now at 45% mem used I do have the browser running so I can post this.

Memory (Private Working Set) top offenders currently while I type this are:

Firefox (578,240K)
sidebar (54,356K)
dwm.exe (21,044K)
PCMeterV0.4.exe (17,308K)
explorer.exe (15,112K)
Rocketdock.exe (8,596K)
mbam.exe (6,776K)
AvastUI.exe (6,416K)

I attempted to play L4D2 with 3 people and I kept crashing if I would take screenshots in game through Steam. I used to be able to .. heck I used to even be able to record in game video at one time.. it seems I can do less than I used to. To me it seems like it is having trouble writing fast enough... but I don't have a clue.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on January 27, 2016, 01:03:32 am

I don't get why FF uses so much more ram then IE.  Freshly opened browsers going straight to this page....

IE = 14k
FF = 330k

FF is using nearly 30 times as much ram compared to IE.

But yeah.  It's beginning to look like it might be time to blow out windows and reinstall fresh.  Dave should have done that from the start when he "upgraded" your hardware.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 01, 2016, 05:02:59 pm

 I did recommend the clean install at the time. I think she is backing up her stuff to prep for doing one. not sure. if I do the clean install over here, I can get all the dust build up gone too and check for over heating too.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 11, 2016, 01:50:11 am

She doesn't remember her login off hand so I am letting her post under my account:

Was playing GW2 and then BSoD AGAIN!! This time I got fed up and decided to take a nap since I was tired after work.

(http://i.imgur.com/pMssMxQ.jpg)

The computer was off for 3 hours. Then I booted it back up and this is what I saw:

I then put the Win7 CD in and booted and all I saw were lines...

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 11, 2016, 08:08:11 pm

Why your PC shows Status: 0xc000000f.
It’s difficult to determine the main cause of this error, but the most likely cause is a hard drive failure or a corrupted boot sector.

https://neosmart.net/wiki/0xc000000f/

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 12, 2016, 07:32:37 am

Thank you ya but other than that notice the lines? The video card failed ... :( I can't afford a new one so for now am using Dave's old temp laptop without a screen so I have it hooked to my monitor and have my keyboard and mouse plugged in as well. Just using the laptop for its cpu while I am WITHOUT a computer...

Hard drive ... video card .. need windows redone ... crap crap crap :( Well .. at least so far the new memory DOES seem to work lol

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 13, 2016, 10:05:17 pm

Yeah.  I noticed the lines and that is not always easy to pin down.  Usually it could be the video card had failed or a bad connection to the slot.  And sometimes it could be a problem with the main board, the power supply, memory or even the processor.  But I would go after the video card first.

You know, when it comes to computer hardware, moisture and dust are truly it's worst enemies.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 14, 2016, 11:30:32 am

Dave discovered that after he was in the case last that there was some cord that had moved into the fan a bit and he suspects (cannot be entirely sure but at this point all we can do is speculate) that it stopped the fan and things got a bit hot in the case.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 14, 2016, 01:12:24 pm

Are you talking about a case fan or the GPU fan?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 14, 2016, 10:13:45 pm

 Case fan Her case doesn't have the best airflow, I think the fan was going on the 5870 also so put her 4850 back in. Hard drives are fine no damage, mb a couple of leaking caps but everything is working 100%, just trying to maximize cooling at the moment.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 14, 2016, 10:18:32 pm

In that case, you need to open the top of the case and install a exhaust fan

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 15, 2016, 05:14:22 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 14, 2016, 10:18:32 pm

In that case, you need to open the top of the case and install a exhaust fan

Somehow I can't see Dave being able to do that..

Anyway this is what Bryan sent me by train today:

Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition OC 1 GB (http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/?gid=1028&graphics=Radeon%20HD%207770%20Sapphire%20GHz%20OC%20Edition)

(http://www.hartware.de/media/reviews/1452/fazit.jpg)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 15, 2016, 03:50:35 pm

better than the 4850. cool.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 15, 2016, 10:41:29 pm

Oh, not bad.  But, just a little heads up.  Sapphire cards have been known to not to work with genuine ATI software.  You will most likely have to get your driver updates from sapphire's web site.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 16, 2016, 04:09:16 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 15, 2016, 10:41:29 pm

Oh, not bad.  But, just a little heads up.  Sapphire cards have been known to not to work with genuine ATI software.  You will most likely have to get your driver updates from sapphire's web site.

Ah GOOD to know!! Thanks  :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:

Will bring it home today and see how it fares after a month of my hard gaming and graphic stuff and spam fighting and spam investigating and all the tabs I open and everything I typically put my computer on like keep it on for months at a time. ;)

Considering the last time my vid card failed due to overheating I have been considering a new(er) case. What do you think? Time to replace the one Oli got me?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 17, 2016, 10:34:02 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 16, 2016, 04:09:16 pm

Considering the last time my vid card failed due to overheating I have been considering a new(er) case. What do you think? Time to replace the one Oli got me?

Well, keep in mind that newer computer hardware components puts out much more heat then earlier ones.  So in order to tame the heat that newer systems generate, you have to keep great air flow through the case.  I'm sorry to report that your current case was designed for show casing a much older system.  It was not designed for high air flow in mind.  So on that note, I would suggest a new case.  Something with large fans on top.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 18, 2016, 06:37:55 pm

Okay .. sadly I can't afford much and feeling poor and depressed lately as I still am getting blue screens :( just not as often.  Dave thought it was my external by a process of elimination (considering he got no BSOD at his place and he did not have my external HDD attached so he figured it would be that) so he told me to do a Chkdsk which I did and it found no problems at all. Seems the only thing remaining is .. the memory which MemTest 86+ found no problems with in 3 passes .. or my 1Tb that I got from Sacha .. which also showed no problems in a scheduled Chkdsk.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 18, 2016, 09:26:10 pm

Okay, so your blue screening still?  What is the stop error code?

Also, I have seen some mother board and processor combinations that were very picky about memory timings.  Especially so with brand name computers like HP and dell for examples.  If you can enter the BIOS settings and check to see if there is a turbo setting.  If so, try disabling it to see if it helps.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 18, 2016, 10:31:30 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 18, 2016, 09:26:10 pm

Okay, so your blue screening still?  What is the stop error code?

Also, I have seen some mother board and processor combinations that were very picky about memory timings.  Especially so with brand name computers like HP and dell for examples.  If you can enter the BIOS settings and check to see if there is a turbo setting.  If so, try disabling it to see if it helps.

Quote

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001a (0x0000000000041201, 0xfffff6800017ff98, 0xc45000017f05d867, 0xfffffa8006be0c10).

BSOD Bugcheck 0x1a = severe memory management error

I am going to this time test EACH stick of the RAM instead of all 4 at once and instead of 3 passes like last time I will do 7 of each. Why? Because a trusted source (Bleepingcomputer.com (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/605739/bsod-on-fresh-install-bccode-1a/#entry3937605)) told me to.

What do you think Sand? Should I do that? Also I have freed up 66% of the 1Tb as I am going to have Dave wipe it like the 320Gb was wiped. I have moved files over but still have to move the Steam folder which is well over 300Gb (following this (http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/migrate-steam-hard-drive-si/)).

Any other advice? What else can u think of? To me it seems the memory since the blue screens started happening only after they were put in but they are brand new and you already know they should work with this mother board. Dave did say he found 2 partially melted capacitors. He can tell you more about that. I will get him to post about it.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 19, 2016, 01:02:41 pm

 I really don't remember any mem settings in the bios, very basic bios on that one. waiting to see how she made out with the wipe of the tb hd.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 19, 2016, 08:57:59 pm

Most people say that you have to make, (at the very least) 5 passes.  10 passes for a normal run.  20 passes for a extended test.  You can run 1 chip at a time but that could take a couple of days to complete 4 extended tests.  I assume that your main board has dual channel memory configuration?  I would recommend running the mem test with 2 sticks completing 1 channel.  Then through the process of elimination, run the test 1 at a time on the pair that failed. 

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 20, 2016, 11:54:04 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 19, 2016, 08:57:59 pm

Most people say that you have to make, (at the very least) 5 passes.  10 passes for a normal run.  20 passes for a extended test.  You can run 1 chip at a time but that could take a couple of days to complete 4 extended tests.  I assume that your main board has dual channel memory configuration?  I would recommend running the mem test with 2 sticks completing 1 channel.  Then through the process of elimination, run the test 1 at a time on the pair that failed.

Okay I will do that because it is faster :P

Also Dave what was wrong with the motherboard capacitors? Tell Jeff please.

Also Jeff should I install MSI Afterburner (https://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner)? I already have installed Dave's loved Moo0 System Monitor (http://www.moo0.com/software/SystemMonitor/). Is both not needed? Just one?

Also these are the specs of my PC:

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/DehfEYtRdRMuAaa4oyyvL7l

HOWEVER the video card is misread. Seems it is typical for this video card:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2187644/hd7770-200-series.html

https://www.sapphireforum.com/showthread.php?33618-Sapphire-Radeon-HD-7770-GHz-Edition-not-correctly-is-defined

I haven't done the memory tests yet because I can't open the case and need Dave over here for that lol ... so I am looking at other cases from stores in my area:

http://orangepc.net/categories/Cases/

http://www.pc-outfitters.com/prod_by_cat.php?cat=6

Also I figure it HAS to be the memory or the motherboard .. it is not the HDD.

The 1Tb is wiped (written all to 0's) and yet still got a BSOD after a few hours:

Quote

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   BlueScreen
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:   4105

Additional information about the problem:
  BCCode:   a
  BCP1:   FFFFFAAFD4919128
  BCP2:   0000000000000002
  BCP3:   0000000000000000
  BCP4:   FFFFF80003119195
  OS Version:   6_1_7601
  Service Pack:   1_0
  Product:   256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
  C:\Windows\Minidump\022116-54397-01.dmp
  C:\Users\Angie\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-83257-0.sysdata.xml

Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
  C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

STOP 0x0000000A: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Usual causes: Kernel mode driver, System Service, BIOS, Windows, Virus scanner, Backup tool, compatibility

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 21, 2016, 10:53:07 pm

Just use MSI Afterburner.  It is not a resource hog like Mooo is.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 23, 2016, 11:16:37 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 21, 2016, 10:53:07 pm

Just use MSI Afterburner.  It is not a resource hog like Mooo is.

Moo0 is a resource hog?

Also Dave is testing my ram in his spare computer I usually use when I am over there so that I can still use mine. :) VERY nice of him to do that. My new case is http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144292 but the door fan is making noise.. just started making noise today. I do not know why.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 23, 2016, 11:28:52 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 23, 2016, 11:16:37 pm

Moo0 is a resource hog?

Umm, don't you read your own links?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 24, 2016, 12:17:27 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 23, 2016, 11:28:52 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 23, 2016, 11:16:37 pm

Moo0 is a resource hog?

Umm, don't you read your own links?

lol with MY Memory?

Anyway I tested by sticking my finger into the middle to stop each fan one by one (not the CPU or video ones of course lol .. just the case ones) and it is the ceiling back one making a LOT of noise.  Probably it being on the ceiling of the case is hard on the bearings and it just started making noise today (we just put this together yesterday damn it) but I do have an extra of the same size that was originally on the back but we took the coloured one that was in the front of my old case and put it in the back of this one so ya .. we can switch it out that one to the ceiling.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 24, 2016, 12:40:02 am

I was referring to the links you posted for afterburner and Moo0.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 24, 2016, 01:20:52 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 24, 2016, 12:40:02 am

I was referring to the links you posted for afterburner and Moo0.

Ah ya but I was updating on the status of my computer. ;) Also I found out what was causing my fan to make noise. The sticker that covers the bearings fell off and was caught in the fan ;) I could not get it out but was able to get it to stick to the ceiling for now lol. No noise! I can sleep :D

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 24, 2016, 02:57:19 pm

 Out of curiosity, what resources does Moo0 tend to hog? I've used it on a variety of different comnputers and the only thing it felt laggie on was a netbook (but what isn't on a netbook).

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 24, 2016, 05:50:59 pm

While we wait for Jeff to answer u Dave, I got a question for both of u. I noticed just now when I plugged my cell phone into the front of my case (usb 2) my keyboard lost power. The keyboard is plugged into the back in the usb 2.0 on the motherboard. I tried it again and same thing. Right now I am typing this with Windows On-Screen Keyboard since I only have one computer (Netbook is at my mom's). If I unplug the keyboard and plug it back in it detects it again but automatically disconnects again .

It seems I have to unplug my cell phone and unplug my keyboard and plug it back in for it to work again.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 24, 2016, 09:32:53 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 24, 2016, 02:57:19 pm

Out of curiosity, what resources does Moo0 tend to hog? I've used it on a variety of different comnputers and the only thing it felt laggie on was a netbook (but what isn't on a netbook).

In a link that kaboom had posted as a link to find Moo0, this was one of the posts made there.

Quote

(Symptom) It uses lots of CPU on Windows 7 running on Virtual PC.

It's because Virtual PC doesn't support hosting Windows 7 yet. Even if you turn off SystemMonitor, Windows Task Manger will then use lots of CPU instead. You simply need to wait for Virtual PC to support Winwdows 7. (VMware has no problem of such.)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 24, 2016, 09:41:34 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 24, 2016, 05:50:59 pm

While we wait for Jeff to answer u Dave, I got a question for both of u. I noticed just now when I plugged my cell phone into the front of my case (usb 2) my keyboard lost power. The keyboard is plugged into the back in the usb 2.0 on the motherboard. I tried it again and same thing. Right now I am typing this with Windows On-Screen Keyboard since I only have one computer (Netbook is at my mom's). If I unplug the keyboard and plug it back in it detects it again but automatically disconnects again .

It seems I have to unplug my cell phone and unplug my keyboard and plug it back in for it to work again.

Sorry about the double post.  I have some questions before I attempt to answer this.  But it sounds like a short circuit. 

#1 Are you using a USB pci expansion card?
#2 Are you using a USB 1.1, 2.0 or 3.0 hub?
#3 Does the front IO panel connect directly to the main board with a single group connector or individual connectors?  Are you sure it's connected correctly?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 26, 2016, 07:21:01 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 24, 2016, 09:41:34 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 24, 2016, 05:50:59 pm

While we wait for Jeff to answer u Dave, I got a question for both of u. I noticed just now when I plugged my cell phone into the front of my case (usb 2) my keyboard lost power. The keyboard is plugged into the back in the usb 2.0 on the motherboard. I tried it again and same thing. Right now I am typing this with Windows On-Screen Keyboard since I only have one computer (Netbook is at my mom's). If I unplug the keyboard and plug it back in it detects it again but automatically disconnects again .

It seems I have to unplug my cell phone and unplug my keyboard and plug it back in for it to work again.

Sorry about the double post.  I have some questions before I attempt to answer this.  But it sounds like a short circuit. 

#1 Are you using a USB pci expansion card?
#2 Are you using a USB 1.1, 2.0 or 3.0 hub?
#3 Does the front IO panel connect directly to the main board with a single group connector or individual connectors?  Are you sure it's connected correctly?

2.0 USB on the motherboard .. Dave can elaborate.  Also I do have the USB expansion card in BUT was not using it for these things.

Also  while I slept and had NOTHING running but the computer was just idle ... I just got A BSOD! :(

Quote

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:    BlueScreen
  OS Version:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:    4105

Additional information about the problem:
  BCCode:    7a
  BCP1:    FFFFF6FC40008690
  BCP2:    FFFFFFFFC0000185
  BCP3:    0000000108289860
  BCP4:    FFFFF880010D293C
  OS Version:    6_1_7601
  Service Pack:    1_0
  Product:    256_1

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 26, 2016, 08:20:18 pm

This is the best I could find on that.  I hope it helps.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff559211.aspx

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 26, 2016, 08:39:20 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 26, 2016, 08:20:18 pm

This is the best I could find on that.  I hope it helps.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff559211.aspx

So the cause would be this ??

0xC0000185, or STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, indicates improper termination or defective cabling on SCSI devices or that two devices are trying to use the same IRQ.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 27, 2016, 01:16:54 am

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 26, 2016, 08:39:20 pm

So the cause would be this ??

0xC0000185, or STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, indicates improper termination or defective cabling on SCSI devices or that two devices are trying to use the same IRQ.

That could be a issue IF you had a SCSI device.  But you don't.  So I highly doubt it.

My best guess would be that you either have a poor connection on a data cable or memory module, a failing hdd or a failing main board.

Data cables can be replaced easy enough and memory module contacts can be cleaned with a simple pencil eraser.  You can also try disconnecting suspect hdd's just to see if the problem persists.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 27, 2016, 01:32:02 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 27, 2016, 01:16:54 am

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 26, 2016, 08:39:20 pm

So the cause would be this ??

0xC0000185, or STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, indicates improper termination or defective cabling on SCSI devices or that two devices are trying to use the same IRQ.

That could be a issue IF you had a SCSI device.  But you don't.  So I highly doubt it.

My best guess would be that you either have a poor connection on a data cable or memory module, a failing hdd or a failing main board.

Data cables can be replaced easy enough and memory module contacts can be cleaned with a simple pencil eraser.  You can also try disconnecting suspect hdd's just to see if the problem persists.

The memory has already been individually cleaned with an eraser by Dave when he put it back in and he made sure it is reseated. I am leaning toward the Motherboard being the problem due to all the issues up to date and already 2 damaged capacitors.

Dave doesn't want me to get this but I am thinking of getting it anyway and sending it to your address to send to me since it is USA only.

www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2357634

Since Dave goes by Benchmarks a LOT I did a Passmark Benchmark on my current system:

(http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/images/57596929795.png) (http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=57596929795)

(At least Passmark does detect my video card properly: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7770)

(http://i.snag.gy/piWvV.jpg)

and tried to find that one I want to get:

axiom asus graphic r7 w amd core quad 3.0ghz a10-7870k apu

Having a hard time finding it .. but is THIS it?

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A10-7870K&id=2531

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 27, 2016, 02:21:33 am

Where I disagree with Dave and his relying on benchmarks posted up by enthusiast tweeker's, to base my decision on my next purchase.  I can somewhat agree that they can give you an idea of the hardware in question's, full potential.  Now where I can agree with Dave on, is that a APU will not have as much performance as a dedicated CPU.  It's not a true gaming class processor.  But the bottom line here is, your looking for more performance than what you had and your on a tight budget.  Comparing head to head clock speeds, the AMD A-10 APU is at least 4 times faster then any Intel core2 quad.  And as an added slap in the face, the A-10 APU is also a radeon R7 graphic's processor.  Plus the AMD A-10 is a 1/3rd the price of any near equal in speed Intel processor.  So big bang, small buck.  What is there NOT to like about that?

But as I said to you earlier, if Dave doesn't like that but feels he can do better and can still keep to a tight budget, then by all means, lets see what he's got.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 27, 2016, 12:14:31 pm

Okay can't wait to see his reply because you explained really well. Also regardin the blue screen I had last I went to the blue screen experts and they said this:

http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-help-support/392262-bsod-while-win7-64-bit-idle-various-times-bccode-7a.html

Quote from: BorisTheAnimal;3221746

Hello kabo0m.

Hum this might be a problem, on HP's support site there isn't an option for selecting Windows 7 so drivers might become an issue especially when the required driver is for the SATA controller.

You could also try and use HP's identify drivers tools and see if it would pick up anything needed:

Automatically Find HP Updates (http://h22213.www2.hp.com/ediags/gmd/about.aspx?lc=en&cc=us)

Cheers, Boris :)

but .. I believe Dave got all the drivers from the official site. What does he mean?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 04:40:11 pm

no doubt if she's going new parts it would have to be Amd based. but the AM3+ platform offers higher performance  potential for future upgrades than the fm2+.
 this list is my suggestion for the am3+ platform
cpu
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286
mem
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211857
mb
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132513

and a quick cpu compare
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2531&cmp[]=1781 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=2531&cmp%5B%5D=1781)

(http://i.snag.gy/CFTfI.jpg)


   Also windows tends to refer to sata drives as SCSI in error codes could be the sata cable that you had for one of the hd's that didn't have a 90 degree connector on it. In the new case it could be bending the cable too much.
 Link from Boris is to the tool for finding drivers for your mb for hp mb's. tried it, the only mb drivers for that board were provided by windows. mb was sold with vista not 7. tried the tool he suggested.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 27, 2016, 06:54:53 pm

Analysis of the latest BSOD came in now:

Quote

****************************************************************
*                                                                                                                                                           *
*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                                                                                       *
*                                                                                                                                                           *
*******************************************************************************

KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR (7a)
The requested page of kernel data could not be read in.  Typically caused by
a bad block in the paging file or disk controller error. Also see
KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR.
If the error status is 0xC000000E, 0xC000009C, 0xC000009D or 0xC0000185,
it means the disk subsystem has experienced a failure.
If the error status is 0xC000009A, then it means the request failed because
a filesystem failed to make forward progress.
Arguments:
Arg1: fffff6fc40008690, lock type that was held (value 1,2,3, or PTE address)
Arg2: ffffffffc0000185, error status (normally i/o status code)
Arg3: 0000000108289860, current process (virtual address for lock type 3, or PTE)
Arg4: fffff880010d293c, virtual address that could not be in-paged (or PTE contents if arg1 is a PTE address)




CHKIMG_EXTENSION: !chkimg -lo 50 -d !ataport
    fffff880010d2000-fffff880010d2007  8 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+1a0
    [ 85 4a 08 75 b3 83 7a 0c:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 74 ad 81 7a 0c e0 a5 01:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 77 a4 3b f7 76 10 2b f7:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 48 8b d3 e8 4d 50 ff ff:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 8b c2 c1 ea 0c 41 23 c8:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ c1 e9 0c 03 ca 41 3b 8e:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d20bd-fffff880010d20d6  26 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+25d (+0x0c)
    [ 0f 87 f5 fe ff ff 33 c9:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ c0 e9 55 01:00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d20df-fffff880010d20e2  4 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+27f (+0x06)
    [ 4c 89 b8 80:00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 4c 89 70 08 4c 89 70 10:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d213a-fffff880010d213c  3 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+2da (+0x54)
    [ c0 e9 e4:00 00 00 ]
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    [ 4c 8b 64 24 30 4c 8b c6:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d2153-fffff880010d215a  8 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+2f3 (+0x13)
    [ 41 3b c6 8b d8 0f 8c c6:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d215e-fffff880010d2178  27 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+2fe (+0x0b)
    [ 48 8b d6 49 8b cf e8 9b:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d217b-fffff880010d2184  10 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+31b (+0x1d)
    [ 24 5f 3c 03 75 12 8a 86:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d2187-fffff880010d218d  7 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+327 (+0x0c)
    [ 88 47 2e 8a 86 ec 03:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d2190-fffff880010d2197  8 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+330 (+0x09)
    [ 88 47 28 48 8b 86 18 04:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d219a-fffff880010d21a2  9 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+33a (+0x0a)
    [ 49 3b c6 74 1f 80 be f1:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d21a5-fffff880010d21a9  5 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+345 (+0x0b)
    [ 10 72 16 48 8b:00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d21ab-fffff880010d21b3  9 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+34b (+0x06)
    [ 48 89 47 28 48 8b 86 18:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d21b6-fffff880010d21c7  18 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+356 (+0x0b)
    [ 48 8b 48 08 48 89 4f 20:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d21c9 - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+369 (+0x13)
    [ 04:00 ]
    fffff880010d21cc-fffff880010d2205  58 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+36c (+0x03)
    [ 89 47 08 41 80 fd 01 74:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d2209-fffff880010d2241  57 bytes - ataport!DeviceAtaPassThroughIoctl+3a9 (+0x3d)
    [ 48 8b cb e8 8f 4e ff ff:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 49 3b ce 74 08 33 d2 ff:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 48 8b fa 48 8b e9 45 88:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 8a 81 58 04:00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 41 88 80 ee 03:00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 8a 81 59 04:00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 41 88 80 ef 03:00 00 00 00 00 ]
    fffff880010d22af-fffff880010d22b6  8 bytes - ataport!IdeInitAtaPassThroughIrb+4b (+0x07)
    [ 8b 42 0c 41 89 80 fc 03:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ f6 42 02 02 74 08 41 83:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 07 f6 42 02 08 74 08 41:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 08 f6 42 02 20 75 08 41:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 10 f6 42 02 01 74 0a 41:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 01 eb 08 41 83 a0 f8 03:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ fe f6 42 02 10 74 08 41:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 41 c6 80 f1 03:00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 12 8d 4a f2 41 b8 49 64:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 48 3b c6 75 0a be 9a:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ c0 e9 b1:00 00 00 ]
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    [ 0f b7 47 2c 66 89 83 34:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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    [ 8a 47 2e 88 83 36 04:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
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Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 27, 2016, 07:02:15 pm

Also Dave because the CPU comparisons contain [ ] in the url I had to use a convertor and edit your post for you. This is the convertor I use for instances like this:

http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/html/topics/urlencoding.htm

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 27, 2016, 07:10:08 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 04:40:11 pm

no doubt if she's going new parts it would have to be Amd based. but the AM3+ platform offers higher performance  potential for future upgrades than the fm2+.

Isn't that only because of the clockspeed Dave? What about that I would be getting 16Gb of compatible RAM with it over what I am using currently which is only 4Gb of ram becaues my 8Gb isn't playing  nice with my motherboard?? AND that I could crossfire the onboard video card with the video card that Bryan gave me?

Oh I see .. you didn't compare against my CURRENT computer but against the one I wanted against the one you think I should get instead locally.  BOTH rate higher than what I currently have. The bottom line for me is STABILITY and OVERALL COST.

(http://i.snag.gy/piWvV.jpg)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 07:14:13 pm

I found a cable with a "90" connector on it. if it's just the cable, it's a fairly quick fix.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 07:24:18 pm

the fx6300 is a six core cpu (a10 is a quad), the base clock speed is abit lower actually(turbo speed is the same though.) I don't see there being much benefit in crossfiring with a slower built in video but I might be wrong. Plus the apu he mentioned was about the highest end that platform could take. am3+ platform can take much faster chips than the fx6300. The board I suggested has 4 ram slots not 2 so you could buy 2 4gig sticks now to save money and still ad more later when you could afford more. Or you could get 16 now if you wanted. I just listed an 8 gig kit cause you could to save money. you have more options with more slots.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 27, 2016, 07:59:53 pm

Okay, so a 6 core CPU would be faster than a quad core at multitasking and the AM3 platform can step up to better processor's in the near future.  Good selling points.  Now with my suggestion,  the APU would be a perfect match for the 7700 / R7 series card she has now.  Yet can crossfire with any Radeon card she could plug in to that board.  Now, the A-10 may not exactly be a "gaming class" processor, but it's no slouch either.  It's plenty fast for her current needs.

Now, with that being said, my solution is nearly just as fast and comes with 12 gigs more high speed ram then Dave's solution.  And it's around $60 cheaper too.  I've done my homework on this and this is the biggest bang for the cheapest buck.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 08:08:58 pm

do you mean 8 gigs more ram? and it's that much cheaper till you factor in the exchange rate.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/exchange/daily-converter/
cheapest way would just be replace her mb with a skt 775 that can take her cpu. ( I'll see what I can find).

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 08:37:10 pm

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ASUSTeK-P5QL-EPU-LGA-775-Socket-T-Intel-Motherboard-/272141294845?hash=item3f5ce29cfd:g:6kEAAOSwe7BWymQz
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Asus-P5K-VM-REV-1-03G-Socket-775-Motherboard-1333mhz-FSB-/222017859075?hash=item33b14bae03:g:RlwAAOSwaA5WlIAe
either of these would do. first seems the best deal. both might not have an io shield but if her board is the prob...

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2016, 01:43:50 am

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 08:08:58 pm

do you mean 8 gigs more ram? and it's that much cheaper till you factor in the exchange rate.

I thought it said 4gb ram.  My bad.  Angie had told me that the Canadian dollar was down but I didn't think it was that bad.  Damn!!

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 28, 2016, 03:07:35 am

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 07:14:13 pm

I found a cable with a "90" connector on it. if it's just the cable, it's a fairly quick fix.

Yes tests suggest this is recommended Dave: (Attached larger version below this picture for download)

BOTH HDD are saying Cable problem....

(http://i.snag.gy/pO8Vo.jpg)

(http://i.snag.gy/TZEOT.jpg)

(http://i.snag.gy/Vmxst.jpg)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 28, 2016, 03:23:33 am

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 27, 2016, 08:08:58 pm

do you mean 8 gigs more ram? and it's that much cheaper till you factor in the exchange rate.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/exchange/daily-converter/
cheapest way would just be replace her mb with a skt 775 that can take her cpu. ( I'll see what I can find).

Ya that comes with  8Gb of ram (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211857) while the other one has 16GB of ram (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2357634) that comes WITH it which would be 12Gb more than what I currently have which is 4Gb.

The AMD A10-7870K APU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2357634) comes with 16Gb of DDR3 ram that already works with it. USD $247.99 = $335.95 CDN  (CPU Mark 5581 = Higher than current system)

AMD FX-6300 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286) is a faster CPU would cost me $160.98 + 58.98 + 118.98 for the motherboard (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132513) = $338.94 CDN AND that 8Gb ram is OUT OF STOCK (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211857). (CPU Mark 6344 = Higher than current system)

My current computer, the Q9550 is stuck using the 4Gb of ram, has 2 damaged Capacitors and turns out my 320Gb HDD I am now using for C since we decided that was best has a bad sector on it (despite Dave's testing to see if it did) and I am out $80 for the 8Gb of DDR2 ram I bought... and spent $113 on this case as Dave thought it was simply a cooling issue.  (CPU Mark 4048)

I am poor and this is bumming me out... No matter which route I go I am afraid I cannot do it without some kind of help :(

I know Dave you are are trying hard knowing my financial situation and I took a look at the:

Asus P5K-VM REV:1.03G Socket 775 Motherboard 1333mhz FSB (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Asus-P5K-VM-REV-1-03G-Socket-775-Motherboard-1333mhz-FSB-/222017859075?hash=item33b14bae03:g:RlwAAOSwaA5WlIAe) = US $44.99 = Approximately C $60.95 (CPU Mark ????)

and the

ASUSTeK P5QL/EPU, LGA 775/Socket T, Intel Motherboard (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ASUSTeK-P5QL-EPU-LGA-775-Socket-T-Intel-Motherboard-/272141294845?hash=item3f5ce29cfd:g:6kEAAOSwe7BWymQz) = bidding so the price WILL go up + $14.00 shipping from Alberta to Ontario (CPU Mark 1561 = LOWER than current system)

• Are those both able to take that 8Gb of DDR2 ram I had bought in case I cannot return it since it is NOT faulty?
• Are those both the same speed as what I currently have or faster?

.
I need more details as I am not a hardware pro. YOU guys are.


With you posting I understand where Dave is coming from and I hope he sticks with explaining on here rather than email and phone as on here I can understand better. BUT at the same time I am hoping he can understand where I stand on this that it is not actually cheaper as I would have the A10-7870K shipped to Jeff in the USA and he would ship it to me to save me some money. At least that WAS the plan. However, the more we wait .. and it is almost the end of the month .. can either of you help me in any way eventually? I am not sure what to do anymore... Perhaps the motherboard is fine and I just need a new HDD? We need more concrete answers here instead of me just buying this and buying that and HOPING all the problems will be solved...

Also Dave you are only comparing to what was found for me in the USA but not comparing to what I currently have. I want equal if not better to what I currently have .. but does not have to be a killer machine. I just want stability that won't break my bank but I also don't want a worse computer!

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 28, 2016, 02:43:35 pm

as for the socket 775 motherboards, they would not increase your performance much but either one should be a better replacement for your current damaged board (using your current cpu), and alot cheaper than an all new platform. I couldn't take over heating out of the equation until it wasn't an issue. Plus your old case would have had more trouble cooling newer hardware than your current so the case was a good buy regardless considering how hot your room tends to get.
 here's some more ram links (also you might want to take a look at the ratings of the parts I've suggested.)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226545
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104472
   

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2016, 06:20:28 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 28, 2016, 03:23:33 am

I need more details as I am not a hardware pro. YOU guys are.


With you posting I understand where Dave is coming from and I hope he sticks with explaining on here rather than email and phone as on here I can understand better. BUT at the same time I am hoping he can understand where I stand on this that it is not actually cheaper as I would have the A10-7870K shipped to Jeff in the USA and he would ship it to me to save me some money. At least that WAS the plan. However, the more we wait .. and it is almost the end of the month .. can either of you help me in any way eventually? I am not sure what to do anymore... Perhaps the motherboard is fine and I just need a new HDD? We need more concrete answers here instead of me just buying this and buying that and HOPING all the problems will be solved...

My recommendation is to go with the cheapest options first.  Replacing worn out data cables is really a must when something like this happens.  Even though they are reusable for the most part, they really shouldn't be reused.  The reason being is that dust, dirt, moisture and temperature changes can wreak havoc to exposed electrical connectors.  Plus, the pushing, pulling and twisting of the delicate wires around doesn't help either.    Also, disconnecting suspect drives can help eliminate data corruption issues.

Now as for helping you out with a substantial donation, it's a little out of my reach right now.  I'm at a bit of a financial burden myself.  But give me a few weeks and I might be able to manage something for ya. 

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 29, 2016, 05:27:42 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2016, 06:20:28 pm

My recommendation is to go with the cheapest options first.  Replacing worn out data cables is really a must when something like this happens.  Even though they are reusable for the most part, they really shouldn't be reused.  The reason being is that dust, dirt, moisture and temperature changes can wreak havoc to exposed electrical connectors.  Plus, the pushing, pulling and twisting of the delicate wires around doesn't help either.    Also, disconnecting suspect drives can help eliminate data corruption issues.

Now as for helping you out with a substantial donation, it's a little out of my reach right now.  I'm at a bit of a financial burden myself.  But give me a few weeks and I might be able to manage something for ya.

Okay I think I can wait a few weeks and do some small things for now such as have Dave replace the HDD Cable in question as the HDD affected is my Boot Drive so disconnecting it isn't really much of an option right now. Not unless I run off a Boot CD and see if I run into any problems and not be able to play any games..

At this moment it seems I need:

• A new Cable
• A new Motherboard
• A new HDD
• To return the 8Gb of Memory unless it does work after replacing the Motherboard?
  

Quote from: Shrodinger

Well the motherboard has 2 Capacitors that are a little .. um.. puffed out? expanded? But I don't see leakage.

This is NOT okay! This kills the computer.

If that motherboard was mine I would do one of two things with it.

1, immediately stop using it and take Bryan's suggestion of KILLING IT WITH FIRE!

OR

2, go balls the wall hardcore on it and remove ALL of the voltage regulating caps and replace them. This requires intermediate level soldering and electronic skills.


Bottom line, if a replacement mobo doesn't fix it i'm kinf of out of ideas. And again DAMAGED CAPACITORS ARE UNSTABLE! Every second they are powered further risks your machine and they are a (albeit minor) fire hazard.

Dave doesn't know how to do option #2 and neither do I so that isn't happening .. so it has to be a new motherboard or another one anyway.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 29, 2016, 05:44:35 am

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 28, 2016, 02:43:35 pm

as for the socket 775 motherboards, they would not increase your performance much but either one should be a better replacement for your current damaged board (using your current cpu), and alot cheaper than an all new platform. I couldn't take over heating out of the equation until it wasn't an issue. Plus your old case would have had more trouble cooling newer hardware than your current so the case was a good buy regardless considering how hot your room tends to get.
 here's some more ram links (also you might want to take a look at the ratings of the parts I've suggested.)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226545
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104472
 

Okay so taking my previous post and editing it for these RAM options:

Option A: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226545 ($95.98 for 16Gb) = $ 375.94 *

Option B: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104472 ($60.98 for 8Gb) = $340.94 *

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on February 28, 2016, 03:23:33 am

The AMD A10-7870K APU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2357634) comes with 16Gb of DDR3 ram that already works with it. USD $247.99 = $335.95 CDN

AMD FX-6300 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286) is a faster CPU would cost me $160.98 + 118.98 for the motherboard (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132513) + Memory * = $?? CDN

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 01, 2016, 01:02:17 am

I can do soldering and have some experience with replacing electronic components.  Unfortunately, I live 600 miles away so I wouldn't be a lot of help.  :'(

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 02, 2016, 02:35:23 am

OKay to return the 8Gb of DDR2 ram I had bought I would have to print the shipping label (I don't ink right now so perhaps I can use Beth's printer for this or just go and buy ink again finally) and print it by WEDNESDAY. Dave I need my RAM back from you please.

Quote from: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/orc/returns/homepage.html/ref=orc_surl_ret_hp?fg=1

What can I return?

You may return most new, unopened items sold and fulfilled by Amazon within 30 days of delivery for a full refund. During the holidays, items shipped by Amazon between November 1st and December 31st can be returned until January 31st.

Learn more about Return Policy (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=orc_hp_s_retpol?ie=UTF8&nodeId=915466#)

When will I get my refund?
Usually in about 2-3 weeks. Most refunds are fully refunded in 3-5 days after we receive and process your return.
Learn more about Return Estimates (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=orc_hp_s_retest?ie=UTF8&nodeId=915466#)

Quote from: Shipping email notification

Your guaranteed delivery date is:

Wednesday, February 3

Your package is being shipped by Canada Post and the tracking number is 7316971164591451.

Paid by Mastercard:    CDN$ 80.00

Should I contact Komputerbay (http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0032CMZ06/ref=pe_386430_121528420_TE_dp_1) to make sure I CAN return it or since it was through Amazon.ca (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/orc/returns/homepage.html/ref=orc_surl_ret_hp?fg=1) would it be through Amazon itself?

Okay since I don't have ink it says I can send the label to a friend to be printed. Nice .. Dave can u get this printed for me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE?

I sent u the email

Quote from: Instructions from Canada Post

How to return your item
Canada Post

•     Print the label.
•     Cut out the Merchandise Return Label.
•     Write your return address in the space provided in the upper-left corner of the label, after the word "FROM."
•     Securely pack the items to be returned in a box and include the separate barcode in the package.
•     Affix the label squarely onto the address side of the parcel, covering up any previous delivery address and barcode without overlapping any adjacent side.
•     Take the package to your nearest post office for delivery. No postage is necessary if the package is mailed from within Canada.

This way I will no longer feel like I have been wasting my money left right and centre and I will be more open to a motherboard that can take DDR3 instead.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 02, 2016, 03:21:38 am

Interesting what I just read on a review on the APU I had wanted though even though Schro says he feels it would limit my being able to upgrade much in the future..

This is a comment (http://www.amandablain.com/the-difference-between-apu-cpu-and-gpu/#comment-2071277003) on an tech article (http://www.amandablain.com/the-difference-between-apu-cpu-and-gpu/) (article date: Monday, June 8, 2015 3:58 pm ) by some person I do not know but specifically mentions:

Quote from: AS118

Good article, and a nice primer for people new to the subject. I personally went for a CPU + dedicated GPU option myself in my rig. (FX-8350 with R9 270x) I'm more of a hardcore gamer though, and people who don't care as much about gaming, may be off getting an APU however.

Something like the A10-7800 on up is decent for gaming, especially when paired with fast (1833mhz+) DDR3 ram.

Also I can't find negative feedback like you were telling me on the phone that there was on this Dave. Can you please post the links here so I can see them? Thanks.

Looking at the individual sites for the 3 parts of that bundle:

Quote

AMD A10-7870K Godavari Quad-Core 3.9 GHz Socket FM2+ 95W AD787KXDJCBOX Desktop Processor AMD Radeon R7

Reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113393&ignorebbr=1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113393&ignorebbr=1)

Unlock your system’s full compute potential with HSA

Revolutionary Heterogeneous System Architecture (HSA) is a new standard in processor design where the CPU and GPU work together in harmony. With HSA, the full potential of AMD hardware is enabled for more efficient performance, so applications are fast and responsive.

Tuned for Modern Workloads

AMD A-Series APUs utilize the latest AMD Turbo Core technologies to optimize CPU and GPU performance in your latest applications, enabling up to 4.1GHz of CPU performance to deliver an amazing experience.

Get fantastic performance with GCN architecture

Immerse yourself in leading-edge graphics technology with Graphics Core Next (GCN) architecture from AMD. This third-generation technology enables advanced features and the stunning performance of AMD Radeon™ graphics.

Quote

ASUS A88XM-E FM2+ AMD A88X (Bolton D4) 6 x SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

Reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132134&ignorebbr=1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132134&ignorebbr=1)

Quote

G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C11D-16GAB

Reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231671&ignorebbr=1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231671&ignorebbr=1)

However, at the current time I am just watching the Canadian Dollar and checking out your links Dave but please post them here. Thanks. I have not been able to be on email as much as the sites.  Email, I have to sift through emails. Here I just go straight to this thread. Much easier for me. Thanks.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 02, 2016, 07:03:29 pm

 The reason I'm not so hot for the fm2+ line is that that the a10-7870k is about the top preforming chip for that type of motherboard. to get a faster chip (in the future) you'd have to switch motherboard types again(same situation  Schro  mentions where Am3+ can take 6 or 8 core cpu's not just up to quads).
   for the user reviews, when you have the newegg page up for the product example the motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132134&ignorebbr=1
then click either on the egg rating out of 5 (first pic) or down a bit further where it says "reviews" (second pic, top circle) to get the user ratings I was talking about.
 below are the links I emailed last night.

here's a fm2+ build if you wanted
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130856
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113379
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231672
prices are in Canadian dollars
comes to about $333.35 including shipping and sales tax.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2531&cmp[]=2362 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=2531&cmp%5B%5D=2362)
similar cpu, no built in video.
and yes all still highly rated parts

another replacement mb ignore the cpu and ram. it will take your 8gigs and cpu.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/INTEL-DG35EC-MOTHERBOARD-W-CPU-CORE-2-DUO-3-0GHZ-E8400-1GB-RAM-I-O-SHIELD-/231821386195?hash=item35f9a1a1d3:g:Qe0AAOSwBLlU-Hpw
another
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-DQ45CB-LGA-775-MicroATX-Motherboard-2GB-Memory-E6420-Core-2-Duo-2-13GHz-/231827618741?hash=item35fa00bbb5:g:LDcAAOSwHPlWewhP
same as yours minus a couple of connections you don't use anyway.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Asus-IPIBL-LB-with-Intel-E4600-/262309115411?hash=item3d12d77613:g:YocAAOSw3KFWfdNg
another same as yours
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ASUS-IPIBL-LB-Rev-1-01-HP-462797-001Motherboard-459163-002-/191816213060?hash=item2ca9232244:g:-3QAAOSwzgRW1H9F
as far as dual graphics goes. if your ad in card is worse than or equal to the apu's graphics you may see some improvement. but if your card is better than the Apu's graphics, you would get a decrease in performance. plus not all games will support dual graphics. And no I'm not using the wrong term ( you can only crossfire with 2 of the same Amd/Ati cards like 2x hd7770 where you can dual graphics certain, not all, similar graphics cards or card and Apu combos. 

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 02, 2016, 11:40:35 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 02, 2016, 07:03:29 pm

The reason I'm not so hot for the fm2+ line is that that the a10-7870k is about the top preforming chip for that type of motherboard.  To get a faster chip (in the future) you'd have to switch motherboard types again(same situation  Schro  mentions where Am3+ can take 6 or 8 core cpu's not just up to quads).

I can see your point where one may like to upgrade processors in the near future.  Especially if the said user settled on a lesser processor for a high end board to begin with at the time of purchase.  But as you so eloquently put it, "the a10-7870k is about the top preforming chip for that type of motherboard".  With that being said, who actually does that anymore?  Computer technology advances in leaps and bounds so quickly that even high end hardware purchased today is obsolete in less then a year.  So yeah, maybe a 6 or 8 core processor system might be better for hard core gamers, but at what cost?

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 02, 2016, 07:03:29 pm

as far as dual graphics goes. if your ad in card is worse than or equal to the apu's graphics you may see some improvement. but if your card is better than the Apu's graphics, you would get a decrease in performance. plus not all games will support dual graphics. And no I'm not using the wrong term ( you can only crossfire with 2 of the same Amd/Ati cards like 2x hd7770 where you can dual graphics certain, not all, similar graphics cards or card and Apu combos.

Grant it, it would be wise to pair graphics cards of similar chipset and power to get any noticeable performance gains.  And in KT's case currently, she would be.  Her HD-7770 uses a early Radeon R7 processor.  Now as time goes by, where she may need a serious graphics update, she still could.  She doesn't have to crossfire with the built in GPU if she chooses not to.  It can be disabled in favor for a high end single card.

Now look.  The bottom line is cost vs performance, and to utilize what remains of her current hardware that can be reused.  AND...., the final decision is hers.  KT, I would suggest that you do as much homework on this as you can.  Then check your finances to see what you can realistically afford.  We both have good points.  Dave's idea of going to a 6 or 8 core system on a AM3+ board would give you more performance.  But at the same time, the APU on the FM2+ board is almost just as powerful, but will lack future processor upgradability and some expandability.  It's still a very decent budget system.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2016, 01:37:31 am

Okay thank you. I have returned the DDR2 Ram (the 8Gb I bought 30 days ago) so that I am not limited to using only DDR2 in any motherboard I get as DDR3 is the way to go now (heck even DDR4 is out now).

I may have to wait for financial help to be able to buy what I need ... as I can't afford anything as I am unemployed and have bill collectors on my ass about my college loan still as I was not qualified for disability forgiveness even though if I went to College after 2000 I would have been qualified... and Disability gives me MINUS $100/mth than last year even though everything is going up in price and the Canadian dollar has plumetted.  :duh:

These are the factors important to me:

• Cost AND stability
• All together so know it will work together?
• Reputable seller
• Equal or better than what I currently am running (do all future benchmarks compared to my current setup please)
• Uses a more common RAm type so I can actually get it AND upgrade to more in the future if need be
• Has enough USB, SATA, and PATA on the board
• Will FIT in my brand new case I spent $113 on
• Does not over heat
• Can use Bryan's Radeon 7770 (Radeon R7 200 Series (Sapphire) (http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/7000/7700#)
• Reliable so it will work more than a year or two at the very least
• Any other things I should require in a new Motherboard and Chip and Ram?
• ?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2016, 01:52:41 am

Dave, you emailed me saying I could get the same board I have now: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Compaq-Desktop-Motherboard-IPIBL-LB-Benicia-1-01-ASUS-/301867366182?hash=item4648b27726:g:GNMAAOSwuAVWt3-c

Is that the best for me for now til I have more money? I mean that WOULD be a good way to test if it IS in fact JUST the Motherboard that IS the problem.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 03, 2016, 02:24:27 am

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on March 03, 2016, 01:52:41 am

Dave, you emailed me saying I could get the same board I have now: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Compaq-Desktop-Motherboard-IPIBL-LB-Benicia-1-01-ASUS-/301867366182?hash=item4648b27726:g:GNMAAOSwuAVWt3-c

Is that the best for me for now til I have more money? I mean that WOULD be a good way to test if it IS in fact JUST the Motherboard that IS the problem.

That is a very affordable option.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2016, 10:58:15 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on March 03, 2016, 02:24:27 am

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on March 03, 2016, 01:52:41 am

Dave, you emailed me saying I could get the same board I have now: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Compaq-Desktop-Motherboard-IPIBL-LB-Benicia-1-01-ASUS-/301867366182?hash=item4648b27726:g:GNMAAOSwuAVWt3-c

Is that the best for me for now til I have more money? I mean that WOULD be a good way to test if it IS in fact JUST the Motherboard that IS the problem.

That is a very affordable option.

Probably wise as if putting this in and still have issues would mean something else is the cause. OR it could get me back to where I was in gaming :P

I can't afford to totally replace with something better at the moment anyway.

As it is  .. in terms of "gaming class" my computer has been able to game but isn't really considered to be of gaming class right?

http://www.pc-specs.com/mobo/Asus/Asus_IPIBL-LB-Benicia-GL8E/6

Is this mine? I don't know if the GL8E/6 at the end makes it different than mine or not.

As it is .. hey Dave do you remember WHICH capacitors were "popped" but not leaking?

Maybe you can circle the 2 on the image?

(http://support.hp.com/doc-images/617/c01324214.jpg)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 03, 2016, 12:13:01 pm

here's is a search on your mb http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=IPIBL-LB+%28Benicia&_sop=15
 I think it was these two caps that were swollen and leaking

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2016, 12:22:28 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 02, 2016, 07:03:29 pm

same as yours minus a couple of connections you don't use anyway.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Asus-IPIBL-LB-with-Intel-E4600-/262309115411?hash=item3d12d77613:g:YocAAOSw3KFWfdNg
another same as yours
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ASUS-IPIBL-LB-Rev-1-01-HP-462797-001Motherboard-459163-002-/191816213060?hash=item2ca9232244:g:-3QAAOSwzgRW1H9F
as far as dual graphics goes. if your ad in card is worse than or equal to the apu's graphics you may see some improvement. but if your card is better than the Apu's graphics, you would get a decrease in performance. plus not all games will support dual graphics. And no I'm not using the wrong term ( you can only crossfire with 2 of the same Amd/Ati cards like 2x hd7770 where you can dual graphics certain, not all, similar graphics cards or card and Apu combos.

I got a question:

Would the ASUS IPIBL-LB Rev 1.01 HP 462797-001Motherboard 459163-002 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/191816213060)  be able to use my Sub Woofer?

(http://i.imgur.com/KUav0CD.jpg)

My current setup has:

(http://i.imgur.com/uC3CZ4f.png)

I am talking about the http://www.ebay.ca/itm/191816213060 link

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2016, 12:34:13 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 03, 2016, 12:13:01 pm

here's is a search on your mb http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=IPIBL-LB+%28Benicia&_sop=15

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Compaq-Desktop-Motherboard-IPIBL-LB-Benicia-1-01-ASUS-/301867366182?hash=item4648b27726:g:GNMAAOSwuAVWt3-c

that one looks best. It is IDENTICAL to my current Motherboard.

(http://i.imgur.com/xUAn1Jh.jpg)



Okay this time connected my cell to the USB card instead of using the Motherboard USB ports I was able to grab the pic I took of my motherboard off of it. Here are which caps are swollen Jeff:

(http://i.imgur.com/gr4q9S6.jpg)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2016, 03:18:27 pm

I think I finally found the Motherboard Manual online!

http://www.ctechinfo.net/documentation/manuals/berkeley_manual.pdf



Oh yes also Jeff I will eventually post the pic of the case for you :D

The case I had bought is compatible according to this website: http://www.pc-specs.com/mobo/Asus/_Asus_IPIBL-LB-Benicia-GL8E/6/Compatible_Cases

I got the Apevia X-Hermes-BL (http://www.pc-specs.com/case/Apevia/Apevia_X-Hermes-BL/928) and I love the lighting and it has loads of cooling.

This is what it looks like:

(http://www.computerlx.com/images/items/X-Hermes-BL-1_500.jpg)

(http://www.apevia.com/images/products/X-Hermes-BL-5_500.jpg)

This looks like it but mine is blue lighting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5vf0ULRHz0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5zzHY50NA

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 03, 2016, 04:27:28 pm

wrong mb manual. Benicia not Berkeley. similliar in looks but won't do 1333 fsb that your cpu requires.
http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Pavilion-a6400-Desktop-PC-series/3677047/model/3686669/product-info
that is your product page.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2016, 04:29:28 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 03, 2016, 04:27:28 pm

wrong mb manual. Benicia not Berkeley. similliar in looks but won't do 1333 fsb that your cpu requires.
http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Pavilion-a6400-Desktop-PC-series/3677047/model/3686669/product-info
that is your product page.

That is a shame because HP does not give me the manual.. :(

See? http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Pavilion-a6000-Desktop-PC-series/3677047/model/3686669/document/c01324212/

Also why is this so expensive? http://www.amazon.com/5189-1080-Compaq-Motherboard-Benicia-Gl8E-Motherboar/dp/B00IMNP570

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 03, 2016, 04:39:55 pm

alot of people figure hey the company is not making these mb's any more if people that just buy off amazon want to get one and we are the only one advertising, can set whatever we want for the price. but as you saw on ebay some people ask more than hp ever charged when they sold them new, for one used these days. some people don't shop around.
 The reason they didn't put out a specific motherboard manual is because  the mb was not meant to be sold for retail on it's own, it was part of a factory produced computer. Wasn't sold as an aftermarket motherboard.
  but they do list most mb info here
http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Pavilion-a6000-Desktop-PC-series/3677047/model/3686669/document/c01324212/

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 04, 2016, 12:05:57 am

Okay.  So by the looks of it, you have blown a capacitor for the north bridge and another for the memory controller.  My guess is that it took a hit from a power spike maybe?  I am highly amazed that the thing even works.  So yeah, jump on just replacing the mobo for now and we can work on a full system upgrade later.

Nice case by the way KT.  And believe me, it's money well spent since your computer never sleeps.  lol

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 04, 2016, 11:13:03 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on March 04, 2016, 12:05:57 am

Okay.  So by the looks of it, you have blown a capacitor for the north bridge and another for the memory controller.  My guess is that it took a hit from a power spike maybe?  I am highly amazed that the thing even works.  So yeah, jump on just replacing the mobo for now and we can work on a full system upgrade later.

Nice case by the way KT.  And believe me, it's money well spent since your computer never sleeps.  lol

 :lmao: thx :)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 07, 2016, 02:12:19 am

Should I worry about my hard drive?

Quote

Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Boot Disk C.

A disk check has been scheduled.
Windows will now check the disk.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 5)...
259072 file records processed. File verification completed.
760 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed. 2 EA records processed. 47 reparse records processed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 5)...
315608 index entries processed. Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files scanned. 0 unindexed files recovered. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 5)...
259072 file SDs/SIDs processed. Cleaning up 32 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 32 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 32 unused security descriptors.
Security descriptor verification completed.
28269 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
36466080 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
259056 files processed. File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
54450019 free clusters processed. Free space verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.

312466431 KB total disk space.
94182608 KB in 141858 files.
111760 KB in 28270 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
371983 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
217800076 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
78116607 total allocation units on disk.
54450019 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
00 f4 03 00 9b 98 02 00 e0 e1 04 00 00 00 00 00 ................
94 61 00 00 2f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .a../...........
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 07, 2016, 12:12:38 pm

4k in bad sectors on an old drive is not huge. 1000k makes a meg. 1000megs makes a gig. check the reallocated sectors in the smart data can be done under storage in everest. as long as your not getting exclamation marks in the smart data. the drive is probably still usable. but I told you you really shouldn't continue to use the tower till you get the replacement motherboard. you have the laptop there use it. or are you waiting till the bad motherboard kills something before you stop using it?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 10, 2016, 04:17:15 pm

I used your computer and my mom's and also your laptop to check but ya I haven't been on here as much lately.  Also I hadn't had anymore issues since going back to that old ram except for that one BSOD.

Anyway hey Jeff do you have any lighting clips?

This is the lighting I have and so far it seems I am going to have to use double sided sticky tape from the dollar store since the clips for this are not sold separately from the lighting (this lighting is now a couple years old but the manufacturer still sells the whole kit):

https://www.nzxt.com/products/lighting-kit

(https://sta3-nzxtcorporation.netdna-ssl.com/uploads/product_image/image/584/small_fb2f26537e62fa89.png) (https://sta3-nzxtcorporation.netdna-ssl.com/uploads/variant/image/77273/large_b3cfe592008b8d71.jpg)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfPm9vWaoFQ

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 20, 2016, 10:24:14 pm

Nah, I don't have any lighting clips.  I have just used LED lighting strips that you can find at most automotive stores.  They have them in a nice assortment of colors and a couple of different sizes, styles and brightness levels.  They are 12 volt lights so you can adapt them to any spare molex connector from a old, burned out fan or something.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 21, 2016, 03:46:35 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on March 20, 2016, 10:24:14 pm

Nah, I don't have any lighting clips.  I have just used LED lighting strips that you can find at most automotive stores.  They have them in a nice assortment of colors and a couple of different sizes, styles and brightness levels.  They are 12 volt lights so you can adapt them to any spare molex connector from a old, burned out fan or something.

I think Dave does that but I honestly thought it would have been very easy to get these clips. It turns out that they are unique to the company that I got mine from and they do not sell them separately from the lighting system which is a shame. I had contacted them.

Anyway I didn't want to take new lighting as the old works just fine. Right now it is kinda just sitting there around everything for the most part with a few clips that still stick. One of these days I may take Superglue (http://www.supergluecorp.com/blog/2010/05/17/10-fun-facts-about-super-glue/) and restick some of the ones if any are hanging down. I do have double sided white stickies Dave and I found at a store so I can use them but not sure how well that will work. I will just have to see. SuperGlue would be the 2nd thing to try if the doublesided white stickies don't hold well enough.

Anyway I will see if Dave can put in the other Motherboard this week as I think I am picking it up tomorrow from Shopper's.

Right now I am typing this at my mom's from my Netbook (Dave's laptop is at my place as I forgot to bring it) and am staying over night. Dave does not want me to use my computer at all until he puts in the replacement motherboard. It is the same motherboard I currently have but all the caps look fine.

Between spending time with his sister and father as well as working on my mom's computer I haven't been on much (as you can tell).

How are things here? lol

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 21, 2016, 01:06:45 pm

 I think he thought you needed something to connect your lighting to power it (lighting clips) that was why he was talking about power connections. Mounting clips for your led lighting strip might have been more clear on what you were looking for. And yeah I could put the motherboard in tonight if it's here (In Windsor), just give me a call.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 21, 2016, 11:45:47 pm

I might want to suggest going to a hardware store or walmart maybe, look for stick on picture hangers.  They might be a good substitute.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 22, 2016, 03:22:30 pm

"stick on picture hangers"
 I think that might be what she referred to as double sided sticky tape comes like a pad of little square pieces.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 08, 2016, 02:06:17 pm

Ya

Hey Dave when u redid my Windows on this computer .. did you use MY Windows 7 key or your own? Because of the Hardware change it wants me to validate and now it will NOT accept my key!



Reading up on this now as I am frustrated and when I am I get a little impatient lol :P

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/windows-7-activation-error-0xc004c008

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/kb/938450

Error code	Error message	Activation type	Possible cause	Troubleshooting steps
0xC004C008	The activation server determined that the specified product key could not be used.	KMS	The KMS key has exceeded the activation limit.	KMS host keys will activate up to 10 times on six different computers. If more activations are necessary, contact the Microsoft Activation Call Center (http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/vol/numbers.mspx).

http://kb.fortinet.com/kb/documentLink.do?externalID=FD36441


I guess my first step is to call up Microsoft @ (888) 352 7140

Quote

With Volume Licensing for products such as Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows Server 2012 R2 for Embedded Systems, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Microsoft Office 2010, and Office 2013, you must use Volume Activation (VA). To activate these products with VA, you can use either a Multiple Activation Key (MAK) or Key Management Service (KMS).

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on April 08, 2016, 03:13:27 pm

 I used your key, it just doesn't like that it is a slightly different motherboard so soon after the last install and activation. But you might want to re-edit that last pic to blank out the code info in it.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 08, 2016, 03:17:50 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on April 08, 2016, 03:13:27 pm

I used your key, it just doesn't like that it is a slightly different motherboard so soon after the last install and activation. But you might want to re-edit that last pic to blank out the code info in it.

Thanks I did what you said. I called Microsoft, dealt with the computerized friendly but patronizing voice but was easy to understand and got it activated now. :)

I guess over the years of changes and reinstalling Windows since 2010 when I first got Win7 through Jeff it used up all my 10 uses so now I needed to use a confirmation code they gave me after verifying it is really me and this is really for my computer. I didn't even need to say why as it already detected hardware changes. They asked how many computers I have used this Win7 code for and I said 1 and they verified that was correct as well.




Haven't tested to see if the old problems exist still if I do the old things I have done such as plugging USB in the front ports or ...  I forget what else set off BSOD before .. been awhile lol 

oh ya that 8Gb of ram I already returned. Can't test with that. 

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on April 08, 2016, 11:10:02 pm

There is a considered "allowable time frame" for system changes such as replacement disk drives, processors and main boards.  I think that is about 9 months to 1 year.  If you replace a part that requires a re-activation, then it resets this clock.  If you have to re-activate before the allowable time frame expires, then you have to contact MS to get a re-activation code.  The code that you present them, tells them what hardware has changed since the last activation process.

Technically, you can re-install windows on the same machine, with no hardware changes, several times in a year if you want to.  Without having to contact MS.  But if they detect any hardware changes, then they want to know why.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 11, 2016, 01:44:33 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on April 08, 2016, 11:10:02 pm

There is a considered "allowable time frame" for system changes such as replacement disk drives, processors and main boards.  I think that is about 9 months to 1 year.  If you replace a part that requires a re-activation, then it resets this clock.  If you have to re-activate before the allowable time frame expires, then you have to contact MS to get a re-activation code.  The code that you present them, tells them what hardware has changed since the last activation process.

Technically, you can re-install windows on the same machine, with no hardware changes, several times in a year if you want to.  Without having to contact MS.  But if they detect any hardware changes, then they want to know why.

Why do they need to know why?

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on April 11, 2016, 08:36:53 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on April 11, 2016, 01:44:33 pm

Why do they need to know why?

It's called a "anti pirating measure".  It's their wonderful idea in order to prevent one product key from being used on many computers.  And stop the loss of sales because of that.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 14, 2016, 04:11:16 pm

Okay

Well I am off to the store with my mom so I don't know what time I will be back but ya Windows is now verified :)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on April 14, 2016, 10:35:00 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M on April 14, 2016, 04:11:16 pm

Okay

Well I am off to the store with my mom so I don't know what time I will be back but ya Windows is now verified :)

Glad to hear it.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 15, 2016, 06:17:46 pm

I currently have not been able to play any steam games as Steam for some reason says it is in Compatibility mode even though when I look in properties it does not.  I suspect this is because of how I did Steam. I moved it from one Drive to another. But Dave was the one that said that should be fine as with each game I have to just do a verification. So now he gave me this information to check out so reading that now:

https://joshmccarty.com/2012/01/turn-off-compatibility-mode-for-steam/

Also I am sick so not on the computer a lot. so I will focus on that after I am better.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on April 16, 2016, 07:19:00 pm

You should have just did a fresh install of steam on the new drive.  Let it update fully and shut it down.  Then copy over all the files from the other drive and launch steam again.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 25, 2016, 06:31:17 am

Well .. ya .. I have been putting off Steam because of all this and being sick .. just didn't want to deal with it. Loaded up the Steam page today (not the program but just the steam) because I am bored of GW2 and I saw Frosty gave me Arc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23LgYxKKjFk

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on April 25, 2016, 08:17:40 pm

Oh, cool.  That was nice of him.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 19, 2021, 11:56:58 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on January 06, 2020, 08:43:18 pm

Quote from: [IA] KT KaBo0M [SA-friend] on January 19, 2016, 11:36:20 am

I wish I could afford that :( It is so nice to be on that but he will be selling it. I would be over at his place every day instead of at home if his chair was as comfy as mine lol. ANyway, to not take this topic off of topic, talk about MY computer will go here: http://www.killerz.dns2go.com/smfbb20/index.php?topic=81.0

 You might not be aware but you are currently using the guts of that same computer you were using at that time. don't think I had the GTX 760 in it yet but mb, ram and cpu I pulled out of the old Lanboy Air case.

Since this is the Katie's PC thread this will be posted here since the PC exhaust fan died.

So now we are looking for a replacement fan and I found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJZyfZfoeDE

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07DHM9BWB/ref=emc_b_5_i (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07DHM9BWB/ref=emc_b_5_i)

(Posted by Katie at OneEyed's house)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 20, 2021, 01:14:12 am

A youtuber named Jays2cents did a couple of video's on those fans.  They are decent fans for the money.

I am currently using the Lian Li Unifan (https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-SL120-Pack-Black/dp/B08HD75K4X) 120mm fans in black.  I have 4 in total.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 20, 2021, 04:24:35 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 20, 2021, 01:14:12 am

A youtuber named Jays2cents did a couple of video's on those fans.  They are decent fans for the money.

I am currently using the Lian Li Unifan (https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-SL120-Pack-Black/dp/B08HD75K4X) 120mm fans in black.  I have 4 in total.

Too rich for my blood :P

I am thinking this as I seem to go through fans like crazy (gets dust in the barrings and the fans stop turning .. oops)

https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CO-9050081-WW-Af120-LED-Low-Noise-Cooling-Fan-Single-Pack-Blue-Cooling/dp/B07KGZ42XN/ref=cm_wl_huc_item (https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CO-9050081-WW-Af120-LED-Low-Noise-Cooling-Fan-Single-Pack-Blue-Cooling/dp/B07KGZ42XN/ref=cm_wl_huc_item)

However it will have to wait til March as I just noticed today I have ZERO balance in my bank account. Turns out when I went to the store and was surprised that when I bought groceries with my mom the day before and then today went to a store with OneEyed I was surprised that my debit card did not bounce. Well turns out it emptied my bank account and was using my CC for the balance. That was the only reason I was able to get what I bought without the debit declining. Well, even though that saved me embarrassment I would have liked to have known that I didn't have the money to spend. It was a shock when I checked my account later. Bad ya this is the 3rd fan to die on my case in the last .. I am not sure how many .. 3 years? I find with this Pandemic I have lost track of the time.

Because of a previous order which did not show up and I cancelled I have a $5 coupon on my Amazon.ca account (https://www.amazon.ca/hz/wishlist/ls/3SFPC39J7N4KP?ref_=wl_share). I am told I will see it when I purchase something on the billing page so I assume it is there. Still I don't want something that will fail so a week more to go and I will have my disability in my bank acct again and then can look. I was looking at these but I don't know which are good for my computer and which aren't. There are hydro bearings, ball bearings, double ball bearings, sealed bearings, etc. What would last in my dust attracting apartment and not die in my case when I have my computer on 24/7?

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71JyxGlzHCL._AC_SL1500_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-All-Black-Computer/dp/B086HNVC6F/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120mm%2BComputer%2BCase%2BFan%2BQuiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613813992&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-19&th=1)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/718Uk7sI42L._AC_SL1500_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B003WM184A/ref=twister_B00EUWM1K6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81r95%2BW9SLL._AC_SL1500_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/Rosewill-120mm-Cooling-Computer-RFTL-131209B/dp/B00KB8CHU2/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613813992&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-12)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81hac5jtZZL._AC_SL1500_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/Rosewill-RFA-120-BL-120mm-Blue-Case/dp/B003WM184A/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613813992&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-21)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41cb4ctCBRL._AC_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/AEROCOOL-Turbine-3000-120mm-Retail/dp/B0009G6RXE/ref=sr_1_27?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613814004&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-27)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81RJGVCpIyL._AC_SL1500_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/Thermaltake-Technoloy-Pure-Cooling-CL-F012-PL12BU/dp/B00J0NZEOK/ref=sr_1_28?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613814004&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-28)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51lyRrXzFfL._AC_SL1000_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/Bgears-b-Blaster-120mm-Bearing-Extreme/dp/B01C4CSC3I/ref=sr_1_29?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613814004&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-29)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41N3vry9jHL._AC_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/Vantec-Stealth-SF6025L-60x60x25mm-Bearing/dp/B000279516/ref=sr_1_30?dchild=1&keywords=120mm%2BComputer%2BCase%2BFan%2BQuiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613814004&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-30&th=1)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61t5HwHAkcL._AC_SL1000_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/KingWin-CF-012LB-120mm-Long-Bearing/dp/B002YFP8BK/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613813992&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-11)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71YiV%2BsERHL._AC_SL1500_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.ca/Silverstone-Tek-9-Bladed-Computer-FN121-P/dp/B009FU2A22/ref=sr_1_20?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613813992&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-20)

Also what is this?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/7164xxEED%2BL._AC_SL1500_.jpg (https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-FANCASE-Expansion-Exhaust-Connector/dp/B0000510SS/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+Computer+Case+Fan+Quiet&m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&qid=1613813992&refinements=p_6%3AA3DWYIK6Y9EEQB%2Cp_72%3A11192170011%2Cp_36%3A-2000&rnid=12035759011&s=electronics&sr=1-9)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest PC Components
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 20, 2021, 10:56:09 am

I was going to suggest these  three led case fan's for cheap with a good blade design

https://www.amazon.ca/upHere-Coolers-Radiators-3-Pack-EN12BE3/dp/B089QK3YYQ/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=uphere+120+RGB+remote+3+pack+9+blade&qid=1613835728&s=electronics&sr=1-21

Title: Re: Katie's Latest PC Components
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 20, 2021, 11:45:59 am

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on February 20, 2021, 10:56:09 am

I was going to suggest these  three led case fan's for cheap with a good blade design

https://www.amazon.ca/upHere-Coolers-Radiators-3-Pack-EN12BE3/dp/B089QK3YYQ/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=uphere+120+RGB+remote+3+pack+9+blade&qid=1613835728&s=electronics&sr=1-21

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/613r1aSx2hL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

Ya these would work but still have to wait til I can cover it. Thanks for reminding me that there are Amazon GIft Cards in stores.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 25, 2021, 09:44:59 pm

You want a fan that will last?  You could take a look at Corsair ML120 PRO LED 120mm Blue LED Premium Magnetic Levitation PWM Fan (https://www.newegg.com/corsair-co-9050043-ww-case-fan/p/N82E16835181114).  They are a little on the pricy side, but worth the extra expense since you will never have to replace them for several years.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 26, 2021, 12:29:07 am

Too bad I already have an account. When I looked at the link it said NEW Customers get 10% off

$10 OFF

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Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2021, 01:57:44 am

Not to bad.  10% off $100 is $10.   ;D

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on February 28, 2021, 03:41:30 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2021, 01:57:44 am

Not to bad.  10% off $100 is $10.   ;D

Well aren't you the mathematical genius :P

$26.88 - $10 = $16.88 but still is USD which means like $50 Canadian :P

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2021, 07:54:03 pm

Quote from: KT KλBoƠM on February 28, 2021, 03:41:30 am

Well aren't you the mathematical genius :P

Just about everything we know is based on numbers in one form or another.  So knowing a little something about math is helpful.  8)

But about your earlier post.  Typical how so many businesses offer an incentive like that to "new" customers.  But leave the existing, loyal customers hanging out to dry.  :duh:

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 01, 2021, 03:12:50 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2021, 07:54:03 pm

Quote from: KT KλBoƠM on February 28, 2021, 03:41:30 am

Well aren't you the mathematical genius :P

Just about everything we know is based on numbers in one form or another.  So knowing a little something about math is helpful.  8)

I am not only Dyslexic but also have Dyscalculia.

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on February 28, 2021, 07:54:03 pm

But about your earlier post.  Typical how so many businesses offer an incentive like that to "new" customers.  But leave the existing, loyal customers hanging out to dry.  :duh:

Ya phone companies and cable companies and the rest do that all the time as well.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 01, 2021, 08:41:55 pm

Quote from: KT KλBoƠM on March 01, 2021, 03:12:50 am

Ya phone companies and cable companies and the rest do that all the time as well.

Yeah, I know.  Even Micro Center did something like that to me.  ::)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2021, 11:01:57 pm

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on March 01, 2021, 08:41:55 pm

Quote from: KT KλBoƠM on March 01, 2021, 03:12:50 am

Ya phone companies and cable companies and the rest do that all the time as well.

Yeah, I know.  Even Micro Center did something like that to me.  ::)

Ah now I remember what I said that got deleted accidentally!

I was able to get $20 taken off for 2 years on my Cogeco (CGO) Cable bill as well as for my mom! Why? Long time customers. That is the only time I was able to see a discount that was not for new customers! However, it was not advertised but was something only offered when you say you were thinking about leaving to save money with someone else. ;)

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 03, 2021, 11:04:41 pm

OneEyed when you can put the 16 Gb of RAM in for me? Also clean the dust out at the same time from the remaining working fans (3 left in my case are working) and out of the other components. I am waiting on a doctor appointment with my family doc (so far they couldn't get me in until after my next London transplant appointment so I am calling in the morning to reserve for a walk in appointment tomorrow soo the time I go is still up in the air but after that I should be free) so I am hoping AFTER that Thursday or perhaps Saturday? Let me know what works for you.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 04, 2021, 08:24:37 pm

Yeah, really.  8gb of ram just won't cut it with windows 10 and any current web browser.  Windows itself will eat up 4gb+.  And you need to say a prayer to the memory gods if you are using google chrome and don't at least have a blazing fast SSD to run the swap file from.  lol.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 04, 2021, 08:34:25 pm

 I just saw the posting, a bit late for tonight. but tried calling you anyway, no answer. maybe Sat, if you have a bit of time I could maybe get you to bring your (with help) over to my place, so it can be properly cleaned and upgraded, then get it back to your place hopefully same day. I might have at least a "for now" fan solution also.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 04, 2021, 09:01:10 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 04, 2021, 08:34:25 pm

I might have at least a "for now" fan solution also.

Please help Dave.  A cool, clean computer is a happy working computer.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 04, 2021, 09:55:36 pm

 I'll have to see when she gets back to me. I can't help with what I can't access. But ya, I know how important cool temps are.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 05, 2021, 07:00:38 am

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 04, 2021, 09:55:36 pm

I'll have to see when she gets back to me. I can't help with what I can't access. But ya, I know how important cool temps are.

I fell asleep. Woke up in the middle of the night ... that is what I get from going to bed so early but I was so tired ..

Today I am hoping but since I also missed my family doctor calling me yesterday (cell phone so even though I heard it ring I didn't get to it in time and they are only taking voice mail so not like I could call them back) I might have to deal with that today instead. Trying to get an ECHO scheduled for my heart. And tonight since it is First Friday I will be busy as well. So I am hoping sometime during the afternoon as I can't Sunday neither as I am going to Latin Mass at 2pm (my mom insisted on that one this time so we reserved for the 2  of us a seat). Seems I am always so busy and when not I fall asleep without even intending to. Still, this HAS to get done. I might have to leave the computer at your place over night if I don't have the time... :( This will be hard for me as I live on it but .. has to be done.

Will call you but if you don't hear from me by 1:30pm call me. Just don't call between 2:40pm and 3:30pm.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on March 10, 2021, 10:12:33 am

Thank you OneEyed for upgrading my PC. :)

Can you post what I have now?

Quote from: KT KλBoƠM on March 10, 2021, 10:09:34 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on March 07, 2021, 01:14:30 am

Good.  I'm glad to hear that you got all that sorted out.

Oh.  About that 4tb drive.  If you want to keep it as a single partition, don't use "primary partition".  I believe that there is a 3tb limit to that.  Use basic partition instead.

Actually the issue was in the drive format type:

At first he formatted as MBR, which means Windows 10 couldn't recognize the drive as  over 2tb properly. To overcome this, he had to either use GPT or make it two 2tb partitions on the 4tb hard drive. I didn't want it to be partitioned so he looked online and found out he should have chosen GPT but he wasn't familiar with that as it is a thing only since Win 10. It was a learning experience and now he knows for the future for all his PC clients.

https://www.easeus.com/partition-manager-software/4tb-hard-drive-shows-as-2tb.html


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/disk-management/change-an-mbr-disk-into-a-gpt-disk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLPjcnLlh9Y

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 11, 2021, 07:49:23 pm

I have already explained how to get around that 2tb limitation.  You have to partition the drive as a basic partition.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 26, 2021, 02:40:29 pm

 As to KT's question to what she has now besides the 4tb drive that was put in I also upgrade her ram to 16gb, and her cpu to an I7 2600 at 3.4ghz (replacing the i5 2400 3.1ghz).

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on March 27, 2021, 04:41:37 pm

Those upgrades should help a ton.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 16, 2021, 09:18:38 am

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 26, 2021, 02:40:29 pm

As to KT's question to what she has now besides the 4tb drive that was put in I also upgrade her ram to 16gb, and her cpu to an I7 2600 at 3.4ghz (replacing the i5 2400 3.1ghz).

I should update my signature :D

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on April 16, 2021, 08:05:04 pm

Just need a better GPU.  But finding one these days is easier said then done.  smh.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on April 24, 2021, 03:36:20 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on April 16, 2021, 08:05:04 pm

Just need a better GPU.  But finding one these days is easier said then done.  smh.

Especially when we are on lock down again and can only buy food at the moment or medications or other essentials. Other things are taped off in the stores this time around.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on October 19, 2022, 12:55:38 am

For some reason my computer does NOT read that I have 16gb. It hasn't for awhile now. And then I noticed my signature that reminded me that it was supposed to be 16.

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on March 26, 2021, 02:40:29 pm

As to KT's question to what she has now besides the 4tb drive that was put in I also upgrade her ram to 16gb, and her cpu to an I7 2600 at 3.4ghz (replacing the i5 2400 3.1ghz).

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on October 19, 2022, 04:23:49 pm

 One of the sticks must have come loose, luckily that has an easy fix.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on October 21, 2022, 10:01:24 pm

Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on October 19, 2022, 04:23:49 pm

One of the sticks must have come loose, luckily that has an easy fix.

I figured that might be the issue.  Either that or not cleanly seated CPU.  I had that happen with my P6T board when I upgraded the processor from the i7 930 to a Xeon X5690.  The system booted up and run just fine.  But when I checked the system property tab, it said that the triple channel configuration was only running in dual channel.  It turned out to be a stray strand of cat hair had blocked one of the cpu pins.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on October 27, 2022, 04:37:20 pm

 It was reading all the ram here then when she went home, it was also, loosened up later. I'm pretty sure she told me one stick doesn't look seated properly. I'm very sure it's not a socket problem on that one.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on October 30, 2022, 05:38:19 pm

I just stated that as another option as to why a multi-channel ram configuration may suddenly drop a channel.  Honestly, there could be a half a dozen reasons why this could happen.  I'm just glad that it was a simple fix in this case.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on November 25, 2022, 05:05:37 pm

Ya hasn't been an issue since. Can't beleive I did not realize sooner.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on November 25, 2022, 10:08:38 pm

Oh, KT.  This may concern you pretty soon since I know that you don't have much ram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWcRqDfaF2Q&ab_channel=Techquickie

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on December 01, 2022, 06:20:36 pm

I have 16gb though but will watching it after I am done watching a tech vid.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: Sandman[SA] on December 05, 2022, 09:55:16 pm

Quote from: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on December 01, 2022, 06:20:36 pm

I have 16gb though but will watching it after I am done watching a tech vid.

For some odd reason, I was under the impression that you only had 8Gb of ram.  Sorry about that.

Title: Re: Katie's Latest CPU (Quad Q9550) & Vid Card (ATI Radeon HD 5870)
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on December 10, 2022, 07:10:34 am

Quote from: Sandman[SA] on December 05, 2022, 09:55:16 pm

Quote from: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on December 01, 2022, 06:20:36 pm

I have 16gb though but will watching it after I am done watching a tech vid.

For some odd reason, I was under the impression that you only had 8Gb of ram.  Sorry about that.

Let me clarify. I was showing only 8Gb of ram. Then Dave stated I should have 16Gb because that is what he put in. Then I checked and discovered one stick of ram was not properly seated. Reseated it. Now back to 16Gb :tup:
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