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Title: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on August 28, 2023, 05:25:48 pm
So OneEyed and Sandman thank you for building me my new PC. My Power Supply I got with you Jeff when you were in my city finally died so Dave is thinking of using this 700 W since my 750 W went "POP" and then no power and no light on the motherboard.

This thread is where we will update how the rebuild / upgrade is going and ETA on when I will be ready to play 7DTD on the SA 7DTD Server.  :tup: 

I have unstickied the old thread that mentioned Windows 11 or sticking to Windows 10 for my PC but am linking it here just for easy reference: Windows 11. Can KT's PC handle it?? (http://www.killerz.dns2go.com/smfbb20/index.php?topic=171.60)

EDIT: New PCU will come Friday. Thanks guys for your help: Apevia ATX-GX850W Galaxy 850W 80+ Gold Certified Active PFC ATX Semi-Modular Gaming Power Supply for $115.98 Cdn (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B094282KV4?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image).
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on August 28, 2023, 08:26:18 pm
I would recommend sticking with Win 10 for now.  But the 8th gen Intel processor can run Win 11 just fine if you're using a 9th gen Intel board.  I'm not sure if an 8th gen Intel board has this support.  You would have to enable the integrated TPM though if the BIOS hasn't been updated in a while.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on August 29, 2023, 11:56:07 am
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on August 28, 2023, 08:26:18 pm
You would have to enable the integrated TPM though if the BIOS hasn't been updated in a while.

Dave will most likely do that for me. Right Dave?
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 02, 2023, 12:57:04 pm
I already changed from MBR to GPT, enabled TPM 2.0 and secureboot. she might have to reactivate windows though. But the PC Health Tool shows you are ready for win 11.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 05, 2023, 04:52:20 pm
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 02, 2023, 12:57:04 pm
I already changed from MBR to GPT, enabled TPM 2.0 and secureboot. she might have to reactivate windows though. But the PC Health Tool shows you are ready for win 11.

(https://i.postimg.cc/s2RkxCsh/TY-Dave-Snapshot-2023-09-05.png)

I kept Dave here really really late until everything worked .. or I thought. Currently there was no net again so I did what Dave did. Seems the Ethernet Cable I have been using doesn't fit snugly enough so I will be using another one .. probably the yellow one I am using in the very old laptop I got from my dad which can't even handle the most basic of games. (Thank  you Dave for letting me use your gaming laptop. It rocked). Another thing is my external won't show up in the list of drives. Watching a video on that and looks like it could be a drive letter issue (I think most likely as Dave did not have that at his place when he had all the other drives in the PC) so I can fix that on my own. Other than that I have not played ANY games yet as I am lacking sleep and a doctor called at 8am and then I had to take my pills at 11am and then mom called at 2pm and with my sleep apnea and broken up sleep ... well yes I am exhausted. Dave doesn't sleep well neither so today will be a day of rest for him.

Other than that everything looks great. I had to adjust the font size on the monitor because with it being this close to my face I can't see clearly and with my glasses it still wasn't perfect to read with my eyes. I hate having an astigmatism. Dave knows what that is like and it is nice to have someone who understands but his vision is much worse than mine so I learned to be patient with his help. He really went well beyond the scope of a tech as he is also my friend and I wanted to extend a grateful thank you Dave!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX-CI3DB4QE
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 05, 2023, 05:35:42 pm
Sorry for the double post but that wasn't it. It wasn't even listed there to change the drive letter. I need your guys help. The computer knows it is connected as it makes a noise but it is not listed anywhere. Not even listed in "Open Devices" or "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media"

Attached are 2 screenshots.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 05, 2023, 07:20:19 pm
Okay talked to Dave who was telling me about the drive letter even though I already checked that but as any good tech he was going through a list of the obvious first. Then he was out of ideas except to hook it back up to the laptop to see if it would read. I noticed I had no net on there so I had to reset the modem (which for some reason did not work with my (my dad's old) laptop. But even without internet on that old thing I was able to see that the external (ClickFree) wasn't showing up there neither. So I knew it had power and I had already tried and tested the connection so the only thing I could think of is when all else fails go back to basics: Turn it off and on again. Then the ClickFree External connected to the laptop and works again !! Yeah! So I hooked it back up to my NEW PC and it is working! YAY!

This is what I see now:

I am also sharing it so Dave understands what I mean by J and I being my external as he was saying there should NOT be a partition so I figured I was just explaining it wrong. It always reads the part I don't access as a CD-ROM. Don't know why. Something to do with how Click Free does security on it I figure as it is meant to be a back up devices as well as secure but forget the details now all these years later after I bought it from Staples.

Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 05, 2023, 07:56:21 pm
Wait.  You have an external drive with a 3.5 inch HDD inside?  I didn't know that those are still available. 

Looks like you will have to update your profile info.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 05, 2023, 09:21:20 pm
 You can get those in size up to about 20TB just because SSD's are more popular and cheaper than they used to be doesn't mean they stopped selling them(hard drives). Costs about $500 can probably $600 taxes in for a 20TB hard drive You don't want to know how many thousands of dollars an SSD that size costs. so I think there is still a market for mechanical storage.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 05, 2023, 09:34:12 pm
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on September 05, 2023, 07:56:21 pm
Wait.  You have an external drive with a 3.5 inch HDD inside?  I didn't know that those are still available. 

Looks like you will have to update your profile info.

Oh heck I do have to update it but yes my external is old by now but just 5 years old. I haven't been able to afford anything new since my old disability caseworker had screwed me on my payments every month and was giving me only $986 to live on instead of the $1021 I was supposed to be getting every month. Now that I have a NEW disability case worker and our government finally increased how much we get per month since July ... I am currently getting $1067/mth to live on and pay bills and rent and food and gas with that I am doing better but just got that CR-V that I have to play catch up financially.

When I am better off I want to get bigger drives, SSD's instead of just 1 SSD and the 2 HDD's and I want to get a bigger case like we were talking about.

LIAN LI LANCOOL 216RX Black Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,2x 16 cm ARGB Fans Included ----LANCOOL 216RX (https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-000Z-000A8?item=2AM-000Z-000A8&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-cases+%28computer+cases+-+atx+form%29-_-2AM-000Z-000A8&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-cases+%28computer+cases+-+atx+form%29-_-2AM-000Z-000A8&id0=Google&id1=19147136635&id2=141459495102&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-1934889051088&id6=&id7=9007311&id8=&id9=g&id10=c&id11=&id12=CjwKCAjwo9unBhBTEiwAipC1107AiWYECiLu_TLLeLxYeZnSxbVLCZ8gjVs12Po5Mv65dQjHivBtrhoCH_cQAvD_BwE&id13=&id14=Y&id15=&id16=639366602113&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=2AM-000Z-000A8&id25=US&id26=1934889051088&id27=Y&id28=&id29=&id30=17331803298601041832&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=CjwKCAjwo9unBhBTEiwAipC1107AiWYECiLu_TLLeLxYeZnSxbVLCZ8gjVs12Po5Mv65dQjHivBtrhoCH_cQAvD_BwE)

WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe M.2 2280 2TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS200T2X0E (https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-2tb-black-sn850x-nvme/p/N82E16820250247)

And I would like this colour scheme, since I no longer have the black mouse with blue fading lights that Beth had gotten me for my birthday one year.

(https://c1.neweggimages.com/itemreivewimages/reviewimg1920/74b25ff1a40a156b7b6202187a55bc3c92b7f4a172a80045f9d251705970ef1e.jpg)
(https://c1.neweggimages.com/itemreivewimages/reviewimg1920/d53b52881fa00eb4b31220e6f506fb170da1e0dcf551964f81b9de69644652a2.jpg)

but for now I am so grateful to you Jeff and Dave for your collaboration in my PC upgrade and bigger monitor.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 05, 2023, 09:40:12 pm
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 05, 2023, 09:21:20 pm
You can get those in size up to about 20TB just because SSD's are more popular and cheaper than they used to be doesn't mean they stopped selling them(hard drives). Costs about $500 can probably $600 taxes in for a 20TB hard drive You don't want to know how many thousands of dollars an SSD that size costs. so I think there is still a market for mechanical storage.
Yes, especially in Canada.

Dave, can you list all you upgraded, so I can update my signature.

I also deleted the temp files from the upgrade Dave as we don't need them anymore right? All is running well.

Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 05, 2023, 10:30:32 pm
 Motherboard MSI bazooka b360m MATX, 16 GB ddr4 2400mhz 8gb x2, I5 8400 6 core, a 2060 Super 8gb OC (I think) might want to run GPU Z on it for the exact model.Plus replaced the power supply I think you have the model on the box.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 06, 2023, 01:01:33 am
So I went from a:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 (3DMark Score: 2,909 (https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/59373603))
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760  (3DMark Score: 1,729 (https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/59373603))
RAM: 16Gb DDR3

to a:

Motherboard: MSI bazooka b360m MATX (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B360M-BAZOOKA/Specification) Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. B360M BAZOOKA (MS-7B24)
CPU: Intel Core i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/126687/intel-core-i58400-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz/specifications.html)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER (https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super)
RAM: 16325 Mb A-Data Technology DDR4 @ 2,394 MH (https://www.adata.com/us/specification/655)  (8,192 Mb X 2).
New Power Supply (Thanks Jeff): Apevia Galaxy 850W Gold PSU
Monitor: Dell ST2420L(HDMI) (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/850273-REG/Dell_592214335_ST2420L_24_0_Widescreen_LED.html)
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 20.91" x 11.77" (23.98" diag), 53.1cm x 29.9cm
Sound card: Speakers (Realtek(R) Audio)
OS: 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.19045)
Number of SSDs: 1
SSD sizes: 1000G
Number of HDDs: 3
HDD sizes: 4000G, 2000G, 2000G External

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/99526704 (https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/99526704)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3pHcyJG/image.png)

Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 06, 2023, 05:19:44 am
Why does it say Form Factor: Laptop ?

Quote

Computer Information:
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Model: MS-7B24
Form Factor: Laptop
No Touch Input Detected
Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x9e
CPU Stepping: 0xa
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 2808 MHz
6 logical processors
6 physical processors
Hyper-threading: Unsupported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
AVX2: Supported
AVX512F: Unsupported
AVX512PF: Unsupported
AVX512ER: Unsupported
AVX512CD: Unsupported
AVX512VNNI: Unsupported
SHA: Unsupported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported
Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0
Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
DirectX Driver Name: nvldumd.dll
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3713
DirectX Driver Version: 31.0.15.3713
Driver Date: 8 14 2023
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x1f06
Revision: 0xa1
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 20.91" x 11.77" (23.98" diag), 53.1cm x 29.9cm (60.9cm diag)
Primary Bus: PCI Express 16x
Primary VRAM: 8191 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x
Sound card:
Audio device: Speakers (Realtek(R) Audio)
Memory:
RAM: 16325 Mb
VR Hardware:
VR Headset: None detected
Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: DVD
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 6676303 MB
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 1915358 MB
OS Install Date: Nov 03 2020
Game Controller: None detected
MAC Address hash: 79eaf5bb9d33d7ddf6fdb422e8e55c0107140f64
Storage:
Disk serial number hash: 31cb87bd
Number of SSDs: 1
SSD sizes: 1000G
Number of HDDs: 3
HDD sizes: 4000G,2000G,2000G
Number of removable drives: 0
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 06, 2023, 06:26:30 am
I just freed up a lot more space on C.
Went from 275Gb free on my SSD to 526Gb free to 538Gb free and still going!
Steam made it easier to move files between drives. There were games I was unable to move before and some on C from 2021 that I now can move onto D where I want all my Steam games to be.

Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 06, 2023, 08:49:36 pm
So, I was looking up the specs on that main board.  And it says it has 1 RGB header.  I assume it's a 4 pin 12v nonaddressable header?  The spec sheet doesn't specify.

The case that KT is looking at (the RGB version) has a stand-alone RGB controller built in.  You just push a button to select the lighting mode you want.  But has a 3 pin 5v addressable connector to use with your mainboard.

I'm wondering though, what CPU cooler are you using?
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 07, 2023, 01:01:58 am
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on September 06, 2023, 08:49:36 pm
So, I was looking up the specs on that main board.  And it says it has 1 RGB header.  I assume it's a 4 pin 12v nonaddressable header?  The spec sheet doesn't specify.

The case that KT is looking at (the RGB version) has a stand-alone RGB controller built in.  You just push a button to select the lighting mode you want.  But has a 3 pin 5v addressable connector to use with your mainboard.

I'm wondering though, what CPU cooler are you using?

TL;DR (Too Long; Didn't Read)? Just read the part AFTER the spoiler.
Have time or are just curious? Click the spoiler for the typical KT long-windedness ;)
Spoiler (hover to show)

Mine is the インテル (INTEL) E97379-003 DC12V 0.18A NIDEC

E97379-003
CNSH8013Q4
F90T12NS1E7-57A01B1
DC12V 0.18A
NIDEC]

However the Data Sheet is part Japanese, part English. :( https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/processors/E97379-Nidec-Datasheet.pdf (https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/processors/E97379-Nidec-Datasheet.pdf)

Hope that answers your question Jeff :)
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 07, 2023, 06:04:51 pm
 It's a non overclockable CPU about 65watts, just the stock intel cooler. I'm pretty sure that her GPU is really efficient too, no crazy cooling needed for this combo. 
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 07, 2023, 10:01:39 pm
I'm aware of the full specs of the I5 8400 CPU.  6 core, no hyperthreading and no factory overclock.  It does have a boost clock though.   But still, a stock Intel box cooler should be enough to get the job done.  But just barely.

As I though KT.  The RGB header on your board is 12 volts.  If you decide to deck out your system with RGB lighting, make sure it's 12 volt compliant.  It will ruin RGB lights that are only 5 volt.  The easiest way to tell the difference is look at the plug.  4 pins = 12 volt.  3 pins = 5 volt.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 10, 2023, 11:31:10 am
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on September 07, 2023, 10:01:39 pm
I'm aware of the full specs of the I5 8400 CPU.  6 core, no hyperthreading and no factory overclock.  It does have a boost clock though.   But still, a stock Intel box cooler should be enough to get the job done.  But just barely.

As I though KT.  The RGB header on your board is 12 volts.  If you decide to deck out your system with RGB lighting, make sure it's 12 volt compliant.  It will ruin RGB lights that are only 5 volt.  The easiest way to tell the difference is look at the plug.  4 pins = 12 volt.  3 pins = 5 volt.
  Thanks Jeff.

I also found this as I wanted to be sure where to plug things into when I can't see the back (was going to plug my speakers into the back instead of the front as I normally have speakers plugged in the back and only headphones in the front).

https://mans.io/item/MSI/b360m-bazooka

Also everything seems good cooling wise according to this:

Code: [Select]
CPUID HWMonitor Report
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HWMonitor version 1.4.3.0

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mainboard Model B360M BAZOOKA (MS-7B24) (0x0000056C - 0xBFF0E490)

LPCIO
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

LPCIO Vendor Nuvoton
LPCIO Model NCT6797
LPCIO Vendor ID 0x5CA3
LPCIO Chip ID 0xD4
LPCIO Revision ID 0x51

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hardware monitor Nuvoton NCT6796
Voltage 7 1.06 Volts [0x85] (CPU SA)
Voltage 8 0.72 Volts [0x5A] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage 9 1.20 Volts [0x4B] (DRAM)
Voltage 10 12.19 Volts [0x7F] (+12V)
Voltage 11 5.00 Volts [0x7D] (+5V)
Voltage 12 0.95 Volts [0x77] (CPU I/O)
Voltage 13 1.05 Volts [0x83] (PCH)
Voltage 14 0.86 Volts [0x6C] (VIN14)
Voltage 15 3.41 Volts [0xD5] (+3.3V)
Temperature 6 35 degC (95 degF) [0x23] (System)
Temperature 8 33 degC (91 degF) [0x21] (CPU Socket)
Temperature 9 37 degC (98 degF) [0x25] (CPU Core)
Fan 1 1010 RPM [0x3F2] (CPU)
Fan 2 903 RPM [0x387] (SYS fan 1)

Hardware monitor Back-UPS ES 750 FW:841.I3 .D USB FW:I3
Voltage 0 13.76 Volts [0x560] (Battery)
Level 0 0 pc [0x0] (Power Load)
Level 0 100 pc [0x64] (Battery)

Hardware monitor D3D

Hardware monitor NVIDIA NVAPI
Voltage 0 0.65 Volts [0x28A] (GPU)
Power 0 18.17 W (GPU)
Temperature 0 34 degC (93 degF) [0x22] (GPU)
Fan 0 575 RPM [0x23F] (GPU #0)
Fan 1 558 RPM [0x22E] (GPU #1)
Clock Speed 0 300.00 MHz [0x12C] (Graphics)
Clock Speed 1 405.00 MHz [0x195] (Memory)
Clock Speed 2 n.a. (Processor)


Processors
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of sockets 1
Number of threads 6


Timers
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

ACPI timer 3.580 MHz
Perf timer 10.000 MHz
Sys timer 1.000 KHz


Processors Information
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Socket 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 6 (max 6)
Number of threads 6 (max 6)
Manufacturer GenuineIntel
Name Intel Core i5 8400
Codename Coffee Lake
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 1151 LGA (0x1)
CPUID 6.E.A
Extended CPUID 6.9E
Core Stepping U0
Technology 14 nm
TDP Limit 65.0 Watts
Tjmax 100.0 °C
Core Speed 2394.7 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed 24.0 x 99.8 MHz
Base frequency (cores) 99.8 MHz
Base frequency (ext.) 99.8 MHz
Stock frequency 2800 MHz
Max frequency 4000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T, VT-x, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3
Microcode Revision 0xB4
L1 Data cache 6 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 6 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 6 x 256 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 9 MBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Max CPUID level 00000016h
Max CPUID ext. level 80000008h
FID/VID Control yes


Turbo Mode supported, enabled
Max non-turbo ratio 28x
Max turbo ratio 40x
Max efficiency ratio 8x
Speedshift Autonomous
O/C bins none
Ratio 1 core 40x
Ratio 2 cores 39x
Ratio 3 cores 39x
Ratio 4 cores 39x
Ratio 5 cores 38x
Ratio 6 cores 38x
IA Voltage Mode PCU adaptive
IA Voltage Offset 0 mV
GT Voltage Mode PCU adaptive
GT Voltage Offset 0 mV
LLC/Ring Voltage Mode PCU adaptive
LLC/Ring Voltage Offset 0 mV
Agent Voltage Mode PCU adaptive
Agent Voltage Offset 0 mV
TDP Level 65.0 W @ 28x

Temperature 0 36 degC (96 degF) (Package)
Temperature 1 35 degC (95 degF) (Core #0)
Temperature 2 35 degC (95 degF) (Core #1)
Temperature 3 35 degC (95 degF) (Core #2)
Temperature 4 34 degC (93 degF) (Core #3)
Temperature 5 34 degC (93 degF) (Core #4)
Temperature 6 32 degC (89 degF) (Core #5)
Voltage 0 +0.00 Volts (IA Offset)
Voltage 1 +0.00 Volts (GT Offset)
Voltage 2 +0.00 Volts (LLC/Ring Offset)
Voltage 3 +0.00 Volts (System Agent Offset)
Voltage 4 0.84 Volts (VID #0)
Voltage 5 0.83 Volts (VID #1)
Voltage 6 0.68 Volts (VID #2)
Voltage 7 0.84 Volts (VID #3)
Voltage 8 0.87 Volts (VID #4)
Voltage 9 0.84 Volts (VID #5)
Power 00 14.19 W (Package)
Power 01 3.42 W (IA Cores)
Power 02 n.a. (GT)
Power 03 10.77 W (Uncore)
Power 04 0.57 W (DRAM)
Clock Speed 0 2394.72 MHz (Core #0)
Clock Speed 1 2394.72 MHz (Core #1)
Clock Speed 2 798.24 MHz (Core #2)
Clock Speed 3 2394.72 MHz (Core #3)
Clock Speed 4 2394.72 MHz (Core #4)
Clock Speed 5 2394.72 MHz (Core #5)
Core 0 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 1 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 2 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 3 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 4 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)
Core 5 max ratio 40.0 (effective 39.0)


Thread dumps
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CPU Thread 0
APIC ID 0
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 256 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 9 MB, 16 thread(s)

CPU Thread 1
APIC ID 2
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 2, Thread ID 0
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 256 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 9 MB, 16 thread(s)

CPU Thread 2
APIC ID 4
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Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 32 KB, 2 thread(s)
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ID 0x10A0106
Name NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
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Monitor 0
Model DELL ST2420L (Dell Computer)
ID DELA068
Serial MVGKH23819EU
Manufacturing Date Week 10, Year 2012
Size 24.0 inches
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Gamma Factor 2.2
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 10, 2023, 08:19:21 pm
Ummm.... I uh .. have been noticing something annoying with my computer lately. The sound.

At first, I simply thought the other speaker went as the right one had already gone a bit ago, but when we hooked this computer up the left one did not work either. That is why I have been using the headphones exclusively that hooks to USB. But ... ever since 2 days ago, I have been noticing a pop-up. At first, I thought it was odd that it JUST realized it, but with discord it pops up so often that it got me wondering. Is it really the speakers or something else going on? So I thought I would post about it here because I don't know what to make of this and thought I need to bring it to "the Geek Guys" (Dave and Jeff). ;)

See the attached image to see what the pop-up I am getting in Discord, often without changing anything to make it different. Is there something loose? What would cause this to keep popping up? I mean, it is not me plugging in a new device. In fact, this last time it popped up, I had just woken up, and it had already popped up previous during the day before bed.

(http://www.killerz.dns2go.com/smfbb20/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=202.0;attach=870;image)

Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 11, 2023, 12:28:27 am
Actually ... now that I think about it I think something isn't quite right with the front panel as my external USB when plugged into the front will disconnect and reconnect when ever I plug in or unplug other things from the front panel including my USB headset. Not like there is a conflict but more like a looseness to the part just behind the case panel...
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 12, 2023, 12:40:49 am
I'm not sure what audio chipset that board has, but I highly doubt that is was made by Nvidia.  This suggests to me that your video card is doing this.  If I remember correctly, the 20 series Nvidia cards have a USB C port in the IP panel.  They are for use with VR headsets, but can carry audio as well.  I would suggest disabling the Nvidia audio controller from the system device manager.  It's not needed here.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 14, 2023, 07:13:58 pm
 I think your going to confuse her with the mention of USB-C. none of her audio is in any way hooked to a USB-C port. The Nvidia sound driver has to do with the HDMI port she uses for video to the monitor, this monitor has an audio out conection on the back of the monitor. The loose connections shouldn't be to hard to fix, just a matter of her getting free time again.
 Also if she doesn't end up using the monitor's audio out then disabling the Nvidia audio driver might be done for less confusion.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 16, 2023, 12:35:30 am
Regardless of what the Nvidia audio driver hooks to, it's still not required and should be disabled.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 17, 2023, 03:09:12 pm
 It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 18, 2023, 07:26:52 am
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 17, 2023, 03:09:12 pm
It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.

The monitor seems to be missing the sound bar, however, so I don't think I can use the monitor for sound anyway...

https://dl.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_electronics/esuprt_display/dell-st2420l_user's%20guide_en-us.pdf (https://dl.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_electronics/esuprt_display/dell-st2420l_user's%20guide_en-us.pdf)

Also, silly question but, is staring at a cold cathode fluorescent lighting for a long time bad on the eyes?


Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 14, 2023, 07:13:58 pm
Also if she doesn't end up using the monitor's audio out then disabling the Nvidia audio driver might be done for less confusion.

That might be for the best, then.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 18, 2023, 08:25:37 pm
Quote from: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 18, 2023, 07:26:52 am
Also, silly question but, is staring at a cold cathode fluorescent lighting for a long time bad on the eyes?

That is an odd question.  I don't know if it's bad on the eyes or not.  But staring at any light for a long period of time is not a good idea.  So, I would recommend not doing that.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 18, 2023, 08:47:26 pm
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 17, 2023, 03:09:12 pm
It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.

I understand that you are concerned about ease of access here.  And that's fine.  But keep in mind, that small barrel jack on the monitor, and the PC's front I/O are designed for "headphones".  They can work with small speakers, sure.  But won't provide much power to drive a set of speakers efficiently.  Plus, you will lose some software control of them from the PC itself.  Use that method if you must KT, but I would highly recommend using the green speaker jack directly from the sound card.  That port is meant to drive speakers.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 23, 2023, 03:29:27 am
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on September 18, 2023, 08:47:26 pm
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 17, 2023, 03:09:12 pm
It could be required if she decided to hook her speakers into the back of the monitor for now because that jack should work fine (if it's enabled) unlike the front audio jack and it's not to hard for her to get at.

I understand that you are concerned about ease of access here.  And that's fine.  But keep in mind, that small barrel jack on the monitor, and the PC's front I/O are designed for "headphones".  They can work with small speakers, sure.  But won't provide much power to drive a set of speakers efficiently.  Plus, you will lose some software control of them from the PC itself.  Use that method if you must KT, but I would highly recommend using the green speaker jack directly from the sound card.  That port is meant to drive speakers.

That is what I thought. Thank you!  :tup:
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 23, 2023, 04:21:58 pm
That awesome!  I heard that steam had vastly improved this feature somewhat recently.  Maybe I should give it another go?
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 24, 2023, 11:39:44 am
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on September 23, 2023, 04:21:58 pm
That awesome!  I heard that steam had vastly improved this feature somewhat recently.  Maybe I should give it another go?

What was this a reply to?
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 25, 2023, 12:05:05 am
I saw a post where you were talking about moving steam files from one drive to another.  And how easy it was.  I can't explain why I don't see it now.

Oh, I see.  It was here on page 1.  I'm sorry. 
http://www.killerz.dns2go.com/smfbb20/index.php?topic=202.msg2493#msg2493
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 25, 2023, 02:32:50 pm
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on September 25, 2023, 12:05:05 am
I saw a post where you were talking about moving steam files from one drive to another.  And how easy it was.  I can't explain why I don't see it now.

Oh, I see.  It was here on page 1.  I'm sorry. 
http://www.killerz.dns2go.com/smfbb20/index.php?topic=202.msg2493#msg2493

Ah okay, THAT is why I was confused :P

OH also I played Dungeon Siege 3 that Frosty gifted me and it plays GREAT on this system!! :)
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 26, 2023, 02:22:51 pm
Quote from: KT  KλBoƠM on September 10, 2023, 08:19:21 pm
Ummm.... I uh .. have been noticing something annoying with my computer lately. The sound.
(http://www.killerz.dns2go.com/smfbb20/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=202.0;attach=870;image)

Dave looked at the from IO panel but could not fix it. Don't know why it is loose but definitely is loose. So I am using a USB hub now instead. The front IO Panel cannot be fixed. As for the annoying Discord sound popup I told it to not tell me again and just keep it on the headphones for now.  Dave, please clarify if I have any details wrong. Thank you.

One thing I cannot explain is when I plugged in headphones with just the normal audio jack I still got sound only out of one headset so perhaps the speakers ... how I thought the right one was blown or wire broke or something ... is not the speaker after all. I mean it did the EXACT same one sided sound in the headset as well. Headphones work find with USB though.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 26, 2023, 03:47:46 pm
I assume that you're using the integrated audio on the mainboard?  It could be that the port is damaged.  And a sloppy USB port can't be fixed.  It has to be replaced.  So, I guess a USB dock it is, to the rescue.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on September 26, 2023, 11:03:11 pm
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on September 26, 2023, 03:47:46 pm
I assume that you're using the integrated audio on the mainboard?  It could be that the port is damaged.  And a sloppy USB port can't be fixed.  It has to be replaced.  So, I guess a USB dock it is, to the rescue.

Exactly
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 27, 2023, 09:09:49 am
 I think the IO ports are not sticking thru the front face plate perfectly causing things to not plug in fully. It might be possible to fix but for now USB hub seems better.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on September 27, 2023, 11:27:11 pm
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on September 27, 2023, 09:09:49 am
I think the IO ports are not sticking thru the front face plate perfectly causing things to not plug in fully. It might be possible to fix but for now USB hub seems better.

That could be possible.  I have seen some USB plugs that are just too thick to fit in some devices.  But I haven't seen that to be an issue on PC case front I/O ports in a good long time.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on October 13, 2023, 06:28:45 am
I have been playing Baldur's Gate 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsnlokMpx-c) a LOT since Frosty bought it for me. He has gifted me many games over the years, but this one I tried after a few weeks, delaying it. I had it on my wishlist (as I loved Baldur's Gate 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUoARwbHcZQ)) on Steam as I used to LOVE the NPC comradery between each other and the different vast backgrounds each had. The interaction with each other really kept me entertained. But I did wonder if BG3 would leave me disappointed. Many remakes or new releases of old games can be, and some of the reviews were disappointed, saying that the old way of the game is outdated and they should have just went with a whole new way to delve into the lore of each character.

At first, I felt that the characters were not communicating with each other like the old games, and I was annoyed how I had to wait for them to have a quote icon over their heads to start any conversation which was new. But as I played the game more, loving the graphics and the extreme detail to facial reactions allowing you to read their faces to see if they were being totally honest, I slowly discovered that they would start to talk to each other openly while you were talking around with them to discover what happened here or there, and I liked it even more.

I did not think I would like this game so much, but I have totally stopped playing Guild Wars 2 which I had played off and on for over a decade.

But then I noticed as the summer is over, and cold weather has come to Canada, that I felt heat from my PC. I play for hours and my PC does get hot. So I took a screenshot. It seems within limits so that is fine, but I did take the screenshot anyway to share:

 Watching this now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHW_KFP7i8I
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on October 19, 2023, 10:58:04 pm
Not the kind of game that I would normally get into.  But I am glad that you are enjoying it on decent hardware.

And for the record, modern hardware is getting ever more power hungry.  And with more power consumption, comes more heat.  My current gaming rig makes for a wonderful space heater.  lol.  The coolant temp in my system regularly hit a toasty 104F or 40C on extended gaming sessions.  And with two 360mm radiators expelling all that heat, it does warm my office during the winter months.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on October 20, 2023, 06:27:20 pm
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on October 19, 2023, 10:58:04 pm
Not the kind of game that I would normally get into.  But I am glad that you are enjoying it on decent hardware.

And for the record, modern hardware is getting ever more power hungry.  And with more power consumption, comes more heat.  My current gaming rig makes for a wonderful space heater.  lol.  The coolant temp in my system regularly hit a toasty 104F or 40C on extended gaming sessions.  And with two 360mm radiators expelling all that heat, it does warm my office during the winter months.

Ya funny thing is my case was a 5 fan case but I am down to just 2 fans now....
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on October 20, 2023, 10:38:16 pm
Quote from: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on October 20, 2023, 06:27:20 pm
Ya funny thing is my case was an 5 fan case but I am down to just 2 fans now.... (Corrected my typo - KT)

This says one thing to me.  Time for a new case.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on October 21, 2023, 03:11:35 am
 I'm pretty sure the case didn't come with 8 fans, might be able to take up to 8 but came with 5 I believe. 1-200mm (side cover mounted) 4 120's (1 front, 1 back, 2 top.
https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-X-HERMES-BL-Gaming-Tinted-Hot-Swap/dp/B00FH6KE76?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on October 21, 2023, 03:33:20 am
That case she has now is designed for 5 fans.  Maybe able to use a 240 AIO in the top with the right mainboard.  But with the use of a tower cooler and the size of current graphics cards, that saving grace side intake and lack of good front intake becomes pointless for cooling higher end hardware.

The description for my case says it can take up to 11 fans.  Realistically, it can take 10.  But comes with no fans.
https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-O11DEXL-X-Dynamic-O11DEXL-X_US/dp/B0CHM7L2V7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=16E0D21K91JB9&keywords=lian%2Bli%2B011%2Bdynamic%2Bxl&qid=1697872606&s=electronics&sprefix=lian%2Bli%2B011%2Bdynamic%2Bxl%2Celectronics%2C67&sr=1-2&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3&th=1
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on November 03, 2023, 03:40:44 am
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on October 21, 2023, 03:11:35 am
I'm pretty sure the case didn't come with 8 fans, might be able to take up to 8 but came with 5 I believe. 1-200mm (side cover mounted) 4 120's (1 front, 1 back, 2 top.
https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-X-HERMES-BL-Gaming-Tinted-Hot-Swap/dp/B00FH6KE76?ref_=ast_sto_dp

I know it came with at least 5. I am not sure where the other 3 would have been.  Yup … Turns out it was my dyslexia. Supposed to say 5 fans, not 8. Sorry for the typo. Even the link to my case says 5, and I knew 5 yet typed 8 and did not catch it. Usually when I mean to type 5 I type F instead or 2 so surprised I typed 8.

Also, recently, that sound thing came up again. I was wondering why I had no sound. Had to select the correct one again. What I wish I could get for my 50th birthday is speakers now lol. But I am just happy with what I have. Been using my headphones exclusively for now.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on November 06, 2023, 12:22:11 am
I'm glad that you're happy with the new headphones.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: One Eyed Wonderweasle on November 11, 2023, 05:17:50 am
 Are you forgetting the speakers I gave you? You haven't even tried them yet.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on November 11, 2023, 07:41:16 am
Quote from: One Eyed Wonderweasle on November 11, 2023, 05:17:50 am
Are you forgetting the speakers I gave you? You haven't even tried them yet.

You know I found the BASS but .. still looking for the speakers. I was wondering if you can come by today sometime (Sat) or Monday (Tuesday morning is the annual apartment inspections - they started them again and I did not expect that this late in the year honestly oops... I am SOOOo not prepared for that!). I think I know where the speakers are and you can set them up for me. Up to you though as I can figure it out myself but could use your help either way before the Tuesday deadline I have.
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: Sandman[SA] on November 12, 2023, 03:03:36 am
Did they not give you any notice to the inspections?
Title: Re: Katie's New PC (2023) - The Journey!
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on November 16, 2023, 12:03:58 pm
Quote from: Sandman[SA] on November 12, 2023, 03:03:36 am
Did they not give you any notice to the inspections?

7 days but I was busy with Jerry being in the hospital on life support and then the viewing and then the funeral that I really only had 3 days.

They came by, Said I had too much stuff, I have a few more weeks to get rid of stuff. I need Dave's help as I put many clothes in bags that are too heavy for me to lift. I might have over filled it. May put some in yet another bag. Also when Uncle Alfred moved out of his house since Aunt Hope is in a home /hospice / ? I was given stuff I don't need but my mom talked me into taking like yet another Santa and another Angel, etc. Things I COULD have used they kept like storage items. Oh well. Anyway since I had taken those things and with the funeral I was not prepared as I had those things out and hadn't put them away anywhere since Christmas is coming up anyway. Plus living alone there really was no sense in hiding anything away in closets where I would have to dig them out again ..... until the inspection. :(