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Title: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 02, 2024, 12:11:57 am
The best overall Windows 11 alternative is Ubuntu according to g2.com (https://www.g2.com/products/microsoft-windows-11/competitors/alternatives).

Other similar apps like Windows 11 are Apple iOS (https://www.apple.com/ca/ios/ios-17/), Android (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)), Red Hat Enterprise Linux (https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux), and CentOS (https://www.centos.org/).



Best alternative operating systems of 2024 (https://www.techradar.com/news/best-alternative-operating-systems)



https://alternativeto.net/software/windows-10/ (https://alternativeto.net/software/windows-10/)



Linuxfx Operating System 11.4 codename "Red Sand"
https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxfxdevil/ (https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxfxdevil/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioFEpRJh7nI
For Windows theme, please visit: https://sourceforge.net/projects/windows-ubuntu/

Features



7 Linux Distributions to Replace Windows 11 & 10
https://itsfoss.com/windows-like-linux-distributions/ (https://itsfoss.com/windows-like-linux-distributions/)

    1. Linux Lite (https://www.linuxliteos.com/index.html)
    2. Zorin OS (https://zorin.com/os/)
    3. Kubuntu (https://kubuntu.org/)
    4. Linux Mint (https://linuxmint.com/)
    5. Ubuntu MATE (https://ubuntu-mate.org/)
    6. Solus (https://getsol.us/)
    7. MX Linux (KDE) (https://mxlinux.org/)



Windowsfx **2022 Incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxB3p_JLvzI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxB3p_JLvzI)**
Ready to ditch Windows for Linux? This is the ideal distro for you
This Linux distribution is very Windows-like in look and feel but very Linux-like in stability and security.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/ready-to-ditch-windows-for-linux-this-is-the-ideal-distro-for-you/ (https://www.zdnet.com/article/ready-to-ditch-windows-for-linux-this-is-the-ideal-distro-for-you/)

Windowsfx is a Linux desktop operating system that uses the KDE Plasma desktop environment to create a very Windows 11 look and feel.

Easy to change options:
(https://www.zdnet.com/a/img/resize/32ea466903533b4299a04e5c5752894ef52a286e/2022/10/17/44d76f77-b165-43db-b83e-673a4601360f/windowsfx4.jpg?auto=webp&width=1280)

In fact, if you just took a glance at Windowsfx, you'd be certain you were looking at the Microsoft desktop operating system and not Linux.

But Windowsfx isn't just a simple theme that retools KDE Plasma into a very Windows 11-like interface. Windowsfx also includes Android app support, and MS applications pre-installed (such as Edge, Teams, Skype, PowerShell, Office Online, and OneDrive).

You'll find apps like:




Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 02, 2024, 01:14:37 am
I do like Ubuntu and Knoppix.  But neither is known to be good with proton.  Linux has made great strides to making it much more new user friendly.  And yet, it still has a long way to go to being a solid replacement option for windows.  Especially in the gaming side of things.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 02, 2024, 02:59:49 am
I do like Ubuntu and Knoppix.  But neither is known to be good with proton.  Linux has made great strides to making it much more new user friendly.  And yet, it still has a long way to go to being a solid replacement option for windows.  Especially in the gaming side of things.

Then knowing that, that is probably just aids in Microsoft being so confident that they can push people to stay with Windows no matter how far they push it in the direction they want instead of what users want.

I have tried Ubuntu and Knoppix but haven't used it extensively to the point where I can really say how it was with game play as well as other things that may use up a lot of resources.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 02, 2024, 10:57:56 pm
Linus Tech Tips did a couple of videos on daily driving a Linux OS for gaming and streaming.  It took those guys quite some time to install, setup and configure compatible software in order just to play some games.  And I don't think any of them managed to sort out all the kinks.

I've tried messing around with my other laptop Acer Aspire V 17 Nitro Black Edition (https://laptopmedia.com/series/acer-aspire-v-nitro-vn7-791g/) using a spare SSD I have, to install Knoppix first.  Then Ubuntu.  Both ran on the system very well for the most part.  But making it able to play steam games was a nightmare.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 04, 2024, 02:32:11 am
Linus Tech Tips did a couple of videos on daily driving a Linux OS for gaming and streaming.  It took those guys quite some time to install, setup and configure compatible software in order just to play some games.  And I don't think any of them managed to sort out all the kinks.

I've tried messing around with my other laptop Acer Aspire V 17 Nitro Black Edition (https://laptopmedia.com/series/acer-aspire-v-nitro-vn7-791g/) using a spare SSD I have, to install Knoppix first.  Then Ubuntu.  Both ran on the system very well for the most part.  But making it able to play steam games was a nightmare.

Usually those OS's have lower resource requirements so I could install it on one of my dad's old laptops (not gaming computers) just to get a feel without putting it on my main computer but as far as gaming they can't handle games even on Windows lol.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 04, 2024, 10:58:09 pm
Here is the nice thing about those 2 Linux distros.  You don't have to dedicated to fully installing them if you don't want to.  They can be configured to run as a live OS and run from a CD or flash drive.  Well, I know that Knoppix can, and Ubuntu used to.  I'm not sure if Ubuntu still has that option.  But you could fully use them that way.  Configure them and even install what you want on them.  But keep in mind that they run from a self-configured ram drive.  Meaning if you shut down or reboot, you will be starting fresh again.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 05, 2024, 03:46:34 am
Here is the nice thing about those 2 Linux distros.  You don't have to dedicated to fully installing them if you don't want to.  They can be configured to run as a live OS and run from a CD or flash drive.  Well, I know that Knoppix can, and Ubuntu used to.  I'm not sure if Ubuntu still has that option.  But you could fully use them that way.  Configure them and even install what you want on them.  But keep in mind that they run from a self-configured ram drive.  Meaning if you shut down or reboot, you will be starting fresh again.

Yes which is useful for if you want to do really secure banking online ;)
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 05, 2024, 02:48:45 pm
Yes which is useful for if you want to do really secure banking online ;)

I didn't give that idea much thought, until now.  But you're not wrong.

And then again, you could setup a virtual partition on your system to run other OS installs from within windows install.  That can be almost just as secure.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 06, 2024, 07:01:27 pm
If anyone wants to setup a VM (virtual machine) to test or run other OS's, here is how you do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53uD5eiZyTU&ab_channel=LironSegev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MomG-aVgkQ&ab_channel=LironSegev
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 10, 2024, 12:54:38 am
If someone wants to try gaming on Linux, here are some answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tb1gTTbJE&ab_channel=TheLinuxExperiment
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Kodiac on July 10, 2024, 08:09:48 am
Now that the windows 10 source code leaked, give a few years to ReactOs and itt’l be insane
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 11, 2024, 09:40:26 pm
Now that the windows 10 source code leaked, give a few years to ReactOs and itt’l be insane

Are you serious?  Got any proof of this?  If that's true, this could be very bad for all current Windows 10 users.  As that will open doors for hackers worldwide.

On the plus side, it would mean that MS must patch the vulnerabilities while it's still supported.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 12, 2024, 09:04:10 pm
Now that the windows 10 source code leaked, give a few years to ReactOs and itt’l be insane

YAY! ;D 
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 13, 2024, 12:18:49 am
I fail to understand why you guys would be excited over the thought that Windows 10 source code got leaked.  Can someone please explain?
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 16, 2024, 09:28:36 pm
I fail to understand why you guys would be excited over the thought that Windows 10 source code got leaked.  Can someone please explain?

Sarcasm Jeff. Sarcasm.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 16, 2024, 11:35:35 pm
Makes me wish these boards had a sarcasm BBC feature.   ::)
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 17, 2024, 08:10:13 pm
Makes me wish these boards had a sarcasm BBC feature.   ::)

Heck I wish my brain 🧠 let me know all the times people are sarcastic :P as I usually miss it. :P
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 17, 2024, 10:19:47 pm
Every now and then when I say something that is meant to be sarcastic, I will sometimes add [Sarcasm] [/Sarcasm] tags.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 30, 2024, 08:19:40 pm
Every now and then when I say something that is meant to be sarcastic, I will sometimes add [Sarcasm] [/Sarcasm] tags.

I must say I have never seen you do that once. :P
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on August 01, 2024, 01:46:50 am
Cause I don't do it very often.  Besides, the times I did it here got lost in the database corruption when we lost more than half of the forums posts.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 08, 2025, 09:16:33 pm
If anyone is still looking for alternatives to windows, here is an option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa8nMiEoti0&ab_channel=JayzTwoCents
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 09, 2025, 02:53:14 am
I was but not at this time. It was more that I didn't have a good laptop (netbook from 2010 would only handle up to Win 7 Basic). I got better from my dad now (really crap but good enough to take with me just to look things up when going to my mom's to work on her computer). It can't handle Win 11 though (only my main PC can and my mom's PC) but for the time being it was useful.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 09, 2025, 11:07:26 pm
If you have a spare drive around, you could try installing Linux on that.  OR, you could create a virtual machine inside Windows 10 and install it there.  That's giving that your main drive has enough free space for it.  Or just stay on Windows 10 and take stronger security measures.  You have some option here. But honestly.  Just because Windows 10 will be going EOL in a couple of months isn't the end of the road.  The OS will still run just fine.  Most games and software will still be supported for a few more years at least.  Hardware drivers on the other hand, well that's another story.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on July 11, 2025, 06:35:42 am
If you have a spare drive around, you could try installing Linux on that.  OR, you could create a virtual machine inside Windows 10 and install it there.  That's giving that your main drive has enough free space for it.  Or just stay on Windows 10 and take stronger security measures.  You have some option here. But honestly.  Just because Windows 10 will be going EOL in a couple of months isn't the end of the road.  The OS will still run just fine.  Most games and software will still be supported for a few more years at least.  Hardware drivers on the other hand, well that's another story.

Windows 11 I can adjust to. I am more worried about my mom as she is relearning Windows 10 and keeps forgetting the basics at her age (turns out she kept hitting the button to shut down Windows 10, forgetting about the Start button, which I had taught her to use, and she once did know).  With Microsoft changing Windows more and more to look like a touch screen OS, it just means me having to be at my mom's, more and more to teach her the basics repeatedly. I remember those "Windows for Dummies" books. DO they still make them? My mom needs an updated one lol. We live in a world that is "look online for this and that," but that isn't cutting elderly people like my mom and just making more work for me. It is annoying. But getting her a different OS is not the way to go with my mom. I realize that now.

What I need is a way to make it easier for her and I can't figure out any. Windows, the more it includes, the more confusing it will be for her. She does not use a cell phone and even though she is finally using the Tablet her brother gave her for her birthday 5+ years ago before he died, the battery may be going on that. I was wondering if a new tablet or a laptop with Android on it may be the way to go but I realize it won't be as she always has to ask me how to do this and that on there as well.

As for me, I will adjust. My computer can do Windows 11. But I will wait as long as possible to switch to it. I do feel lied to by MS when they said Win10 would be the last one. No point in fighting it. But in my mom's case, it is still a problem needing a solution.

Any ideas for her? By the way, her computer CAN handle Win 11 (that small slow one) but she is already complaining how slow it is...
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: Sandman[SA] on July 11, 2025, 08:01:03 pm
I remember those "Windows for Dummies" books. DO they still make them? My mom needs an updated one lol.

I have seen them around still.  Only I don't know how "current" they are.  But at least a lot of it would still be relevant.

As for me, I will adjust. My computer can do Windows 11. But I will wait as long as possible to switch to it. I do feel lied to by MS when they said Win10 would be the last one. No point in fighting it. But in my mom's case, it is still a problem needing a solution.

Same.  I will most likely stick with Windows 10 to the bitter end.  I have found some tricks to older Windows 11 builds that can enable a local user account.  I would be putting them to the test.

Any ideas for her? By the way, her computer CAN handle Win 11 (that small slow one) but she is already complaining how slow it is...

You could try trimming Windows 11 bloat down with an app called Rufus (https://rufus.ie/en/).  Worth a shot.
Title: Re: Best overall Win10/11 alternatives?? List your thoughts
Post by: KT 💣 KλBoƠM on October 18, 2025, 10:13:03 pm
Many vids now about NOT going to WIN 11 but to Linux instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8HtZ-6mA1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGyhOCxPkjA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjRwj0V09uY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdnbIXArwVk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSd7wD-2x4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utZdAcjzVBg